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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Shawn Bohrer <shawn.bohrer@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: x86: 4kstacks default
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:36:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <480AAC20.4050604@sandeen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080419110034.34b70bd5@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

Arjan van de Ven wrote:

> On the flipside the arguments tend to be
> 1) certain stackings of components still runs the risk of overflowing
> 2) I want to run ndiswrapper
> 3) general, unspecified uneasyness.
> 
> For 1), we need to know which they are, and then solve them, because even on x86-64 with 8k stacks
> they can be a problem (just because the stack frames are bigger, although not quite double, there).

Except, apparently, not, at least in my experience.

Ask the xfs guys if they see stack overflows on x86_64, or on x86.

I've personally never seen common stack problems with xfs on x86_64, but
it's very common on x86.  I don't have a great answer for why, but
that's my anecdotal evidence.

> I've not seen any recent reports, I'll try to extend the kerneloops.org client to collect the
> "stack is getting low" warning to be able to see how much this really happens.

That sounds like a very good thing to collect, and maybe if I re-send a
"clearly state stack overflows at oops time" patch you can easily keep tabs.

Thanks,

-Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-20  2:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200804181737.m3IHbabI010051@hera.kernel.org>
2008-04-18 21:29 ` x86: 4kstacks default Andrew Morton
2008-04-19 14:23   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-19 14:35     ` Oliver Pinter
2008-04-19 15:19       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-19 15:42         ` Oliver Pinter
2008-04-20  1:56         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20  7:42           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 16:59             ` Chris Wedgwood
     [not found]         ` <480AA2B9.10305__23983.3358479247$1208657639$gmane$org@sandeen.net>
2008-04-20 11:48           ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-19 14:59     ` Shawn Bohrer
2008-04-19 18:00       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-19 18:33         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-19 19:10           ` Stefan Richter
2008-04-20  2:36         ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2008-04-20  6:11           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 22:53           ` David Chinner
2008-04-20  8:09       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20  8:06         ` Alan Cox
2008-04-20  8:51           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20  9:36             ` Alan Cox
2008-04-20 10:44               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 11:02                 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-20 11:54                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 11:37                     ` Alan Cox
2008-04-20 12:18                       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 14:05                         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 14:21                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 14:56                             ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 15:41                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 16:03                             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-21  3:30                               ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2008-04-23  8:57                                 ` Helge Hafting
2008-04-21  7:45                           ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-21  9:55                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 13:29                             ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-21 19:51                               ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-21 20:28                                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22  1:28                                 ` David Chinner
2008-04-22  2:33                                   ` [PATCH] xfs: do not pass size into kmem_free, it's unused Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22  3:03                                     ` [PATCH] xfs: do not pass unused params to xfs_flush_pages Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22  3:14                                       ` [PATCH] xfs: use smaller int param in call " Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22  3:18                                         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22  4:10                                           ` David Chinner
2008-04-22  9:42                                         ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused parameter of xfs_qm_dqpurge Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 10:16                                           ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused parameter of xfs_iomap_write_allocate Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 11:20                                             ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters of xfs_bmap_add_free and xfs_btree_read_bufl Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 11:48                                               ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters for seven functions in xfs_trans.h Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 11:51                                               ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 13:32                                                 ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused params from functions in xfs_dir2_leaf.h Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 13:40                                                   ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused params from functions in xfs/quota/* Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 13:46                                                     ` [PATCH] xfs: expose no-op xfs_put_perag() Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 14:08                                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 23:16                                                       ` David Chinner
2008-04-22 23:08                                                     ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused params from functions in xfs/quota/* David Chinner
2008-04-22 22:47                                                 ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters for seven functions in xfs_trans.h David Chinner
2008-04-22 14:28                                               ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters of xfs_bmap_add_free and xfs_btree_read_bufl Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 16:17                                                 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 17:21                                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 17:26                                                     ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 17:50                                                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 18:28                                                         ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters of?xfs_bmap_add_free " Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 19:32                                                           ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 23:53                                                             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 20:46                                                       ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters of xfs_bmap_add_free " Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 22:43                                               ` David Chinner
2008-04-22 22:33                                             ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused parameter of xfs_iomap_write_allocate David Chinner
2008-04-22 22:11                                           ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused parameter of xfs_qm_dqpurge David Chinner
2008-04-23  8:18                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-22 22:08                                         ` [PATCH] xfs: use smaller int param in call to xfs_flush_pages David Chinner
2008-04-22  3:15                                       ` [PATCH] xfs: do not pass unused params " Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22  8:57                                         ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22  9:56                                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2008-04-22 10:33                                             ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 12:51                                           ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 22:07                                       ` David Chinner
2008-04-22  3:09                                     ` [PATCH] xfs: do not pass size into kmem_free, it's unused Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22  3:35                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 22:02                                     ` David Chinner
2008-04-22 12:48                                   ` x86: 4kstacks default Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 13:01                                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 13:51                                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-27 19:27                                   ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-27 23:02                                     ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-27 23:08                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-28  0:00                                         ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-20 12:37                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 12:27                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 12:32                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 12:47                   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-20 13:06                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 13:30                       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 13:34                         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-20 14:04                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-28 17:56                         ` Bill Davidsen
2008-04-20 13:21                     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-23  9:13                       ` Helge Hafting
2008-04-23 23:29                         ` David Chinner
2008-04-24 15:46                         ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-28 18:38                       ` Bill Davidsen
2008-04-20 13:27                     ` Mark Lord
2008-04-20 13:38                       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-20 14:19                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 16:41                           ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20 17:19                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 17:43                               ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20 18:19                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 18:50                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 20:09                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 21:50                                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-20 21:55                                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 14:29                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-20 20:32                                   ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20 20:35                                   ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20 14:09                       ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 14:20                         ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-20 14:40                           ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 15:44                   ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-20 17:26                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 18:48                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 20:01                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 20:43                           ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-20 21:40                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 22:17                               ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-04-20 23:48                                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-21  1:45                               ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-21  7:51                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 17:34                                   ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-20 22:33                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 22:33                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 23:16                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21  5:53                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-21  3:06                             ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 21:45                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-20 21:51                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-22 18:20                     ` Romano Giannetti
2008-04-23  5:03                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-23  5:21                         ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-23  5:25                           ` david
2008-04-23  5:41                             ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-23  7:46                               ` Romano Giannetti
2008-04-23 11:24                                 ` Stefan Richter
2008-04-23 12:15                                   ` Romano Giannetti
2008-04-23 15:59                                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-20 13:22                 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-19 17:49     ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-25 17:39       ` Parag Warudkar
2008-04-20  3:29     ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 12:36       ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 14:31       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-23  5:27     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-23 23:36       ` David Chinner
2008-04-24  0:45         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-24  9:52           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-24 12:25             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-24 15:41             ` Chris Mason
2008-04-24 18:30               ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-24  0:56         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found] <ak6tq-32p-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <ak6tq-32p-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-04-19 10:56   ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found] ` <akFri-4yB-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <akGQg-7TX-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <akKhi-91-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-04-20 20:23       ` Bodo Eggert
2008-04-20 20:59         ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-21 20:05           ` Bodo Eggert
2008-04-22 15:34             ` Daniel Hazelton

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