From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patrakov@gmail.com>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Shawn Bohrer <shawn.bohrer@gmail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: x86: 4kstacks default
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:30:01 +0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <480C0A39.7080501@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080420160327.GE1899@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi>
Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:41:27AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>> ...
>> yes. Adrian is waay off in the weeds on this one. Nobody but him is suggesting to remove
>> 8Kb stacks. I think everyone else agrees that having both options is valuable; and there
>> are better ways to find+fix stack bloat than removing this config option.
>
> I'm not arguing for removing the option immediately, but long-term we
> shouldn't need it.
>
> This comes from my experience of removing obsolete drivers for hardware
> for which also a more recent driver exists:
> As long as there is some workaround (e.g. using an older driver or
> 8k stacks) the workaround will be used instead of the getting proper
> bug reports and fixes.
>
> As far as I know all problems that are known with 4k stacks are some
> nested things with XFS in the trace.
This "as far as I know" is a problem itself. Is it possible to implement (e.g.,
using some form of memory protection in hardware, but I am not an expert here)
an option with 8k stacks that, however, spams the log if the actual usage goes
above 4k, and have this as a default for some time? If 4k stacks are the goal
that is almost achieved, then this debugging option should have zero impact on
performance.
--
Alexander E. Patrakov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-21 3:30 UTC|newest]
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[not found] <200804181737.m3IHbabI010051@hera.kernel.org>
2008-04-18 21:29 ` x86: 4kstacks default Andrew Morton
2008-04-19 14:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-19 14:35 ` Oliver Pinter
2008-04-19 15:19 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-19 15:42 ` Oliver Pinter
2008-04-20 1:56 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 7:42 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 16:59 ` Chris Wedgwood
[not found] ` <480AA2B9.10305__23983.3358479247$1208657639$gmane$org@sandeen.net>
2008-04-20 11:48 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-19 14:59 ` Shawn Bohrer
2008-04-19 18:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-19 18:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-19 19:10 ` Stefan Richter
2008-04-20 2:36 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 6:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 22:53 ` David Chinner
2008-04-20 8:09 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 8:06 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-20 8:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 9:36 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-20 10:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 11:02 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-20 11:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 11:37 ` Alan Cox
2008-04-20 12:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 14:05 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 14:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 14:56 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 15:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 16:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-21 3:30 ` Alexander E. Patrakov [this message]
2008-04-23 8:57 ` Helge Hafting
2008-04-21 7:45 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-21 9:55 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 13:29 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-21 19:51 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-21 20:28 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 1:28 ` David Chinner
2008-04-22 2:33 ` [PATCH] xfs: do not pass size into kmem_free, it's unused Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 3:03 ` [PATCH] xfs: do not pass unused params to xfs_flush_pages Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 3:14 ` [PATCH] xfs: use smaller int param in call " Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 3:18 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 4:10 ` David Chinner
2008-04-22 9:42 ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused parameter of xfs_qm_dqpurge Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 10:16 ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused parameter of xfs_iomap_write_allocate Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 11:20 ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters of xfs_bmap_add_free and xfs_btree_read_bufl Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 11:48 ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters for seven functions in xfs_trans.h Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 11:51 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 13:32 ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused params from functions in xfs_dir2_leaf.h Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 13:40 ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused params from functions in xfs/quota/* Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 13:46 ` [PATCH] xfs: expose no-op xfs_put_perag() Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 14:08 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 23:16 ` David Chinner
2008-04-22 23:08 ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused params from functions in xfs/quota/* David Chinner
2008-04-22 22:47 ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters for seven functions in xfs_trans.h David Chinner
2008-04-22 14:28 ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters of xfs_bmap_add_free and xfs_btree_read_bufl Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 16:17 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 17:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 17:26 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 17:50 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 18:28 ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters of?xfs_bmap_add_free " Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 19:32 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 23:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 20:46 ` [PATCH] xfs: #define out unused parameters of xfs_bmap_add_free " Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 22:43 ` David Chinner
2008-04-22 22:33 ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused parameter of xfs_iomap_write_allocate David Chinner
2008-04-22 22:11 ` [PATCH] xfs: remove unused parameter of xfs_qm_dqpurge David Chinner
2008-04-23 8:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-22 22:08 ` [PATCH] xfs: use smaller int param in call to xfs_flush_pages David Chinner
2008-04-22 3:15 ` [PATCH] xfs: do not pass unused params " Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 8:57 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 9:56 ` Jakub Jelinek
2008-04-22 10:33 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 12:51 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 22:07 ` David Chinner
2008-04-22 3:09 ` [PATCH] xfs: do not pass size into kmem_free, it's unused Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 3:35 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-22 22:02 ` David Chinner
2008-04-22 12:48 ` x86: 4kstacks default Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-22 13:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-22 13:51 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-27 19:27 ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-27 23:02 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-27 23:08 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-28 0:00 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-20 12:37 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 12:27 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 12:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 12:47 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-20 13:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 13:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-20 13:34 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-20 14:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-28 17:56 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-04-20 13:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-23 9:13 ` Helge Hafting
2008-04-23 23:29 ` David Chinner
2008-04-24 15:46 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-28 18:38 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-04-20 13:27 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-20 13:38 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-20 14:19 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 16:41 ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20 17:19 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 17:43 ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20 18:19 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 18:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 20:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 21:50 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-20 21:55 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 14:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-20 20:32 ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20 20:35 ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20 14:09 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 14:20 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-04-20 14:40 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 15:44 ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-20 17:26 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 18:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 20:01 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 20:43 ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-20 21:40 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-20 22:17 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-04-20 23:48 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-21 1:45 ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-21 7:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 17:34 ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-20 22:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 22:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-20 23:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 5:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-21 3:06 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 21:45 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-20 21:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-22 18:20 ` Romano Giannetti
2008-04-23 5:03 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-04-23 5:21 ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-23 5:25 ` david
2008-04-23 5:41 ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-23 7:46 ` Romano Giannetti
2008-04-23 11:24 ` Stefan Richter
2008-04-23 12:15 ` Romano Giannetti
2008-04-23 15:59 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-04-20 13:22 ` Mark Lord
2008-04-19 17:49 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-25 17:39 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-04-20 3:29 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-04-20 12:36 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-21 14:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-23 5:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-23 23:36 ` David Chinner
2008-04-24 0:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-04-24 9:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-24 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-24 15:41 ` Chris Mason
2008-04-24 18:30 ` Alexander van Heukelum
2008-04-24 0:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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[not found] ` <ak6tq-32p-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-04-19 10:56 ` Bodo Eggert
[not found] ` <akFri-4yB-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <akGQg-7TX-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <akKhi-91-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-04-20 20:23 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-04-20 20:59 ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-04-21 20:05 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-04-22 15:34 ` Daniel Hazelton
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