From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761468AbYDVQmq (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:42:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755095AbYDVQmh (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:42:37 -0400 Received: from mail.AKNET.ru ([77.246.241.226]:58054 "EHLO mail.aknet.ru" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754354AbYDVQmg (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:42:36 -0400 Message-ID: <480E156B.3010809@aknet.ru> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:42:19 +0400 From: Stas Sergeev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080226) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dmitry Torokhov CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Takashi Iwai Subject: Re: 2.6.25-mm1 (snd-pcsp doesn't like DEBUG_PAGEALLOC) References: <20080418014757.52fb4a4f.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080419021343.GA3503@nineveh.local> <20080418200237.b5a9e805.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080419041429.GA8508@anvil.corenet.prv> <20080418212934.bbe84ee2.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <480CD50F.20706@aknet.ru> <20080422084401.ZZRA012@mailhub.coreip.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20080422084401.ZZRA012@mailhub.coreip.homeip.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hello. Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > Just out of curiosity, what is the sound quality with the PC speaker? That depends on the speaker itself. If it is large enough (not a piezo tablet), then the sound probably matches the telephone. :) > Not to belittle Stas's effort, but how relevant is this driver for > mainline given that it os pretty much impossible nowadays to find a > motherboard without on-board sound? I know it is used because people are mailing me about it. Mainly on servers I think, as on a desktop its value it really questionable. :) The real problem is that the board manufacturers put the piezo beepers these days, and also nvidia already excluded the necessary capabilities from their NForce chipset. So in the future it may indeed became out of the use. By the way, you may be surprised, but I am still being asked by various people to write an LPT DAC (Covox) sound driver (the ancient OSS-based pc-speaker driver supported also that). I guess people just like to use all the hardware they have, even if it is not really very usefull.