From: David Collier-Brown <davecb@sun.com>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"Alan D. Brunelle" <Alan.Brunelle@hp.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/3] Skip I/O merges when disabled
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:53:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4810ACEA.5070401@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080424150425.GD12774@kernel.dk>
Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 24 2008, Andi Kleen wrote:
>
>>>Not a good idea IMHO, it's much better with an explicit setting. That
>>>way you don't introduce indeterministic behavior.
>>
>>So you would be deterministically slower.
>
>
> Yes, absolutely. Think about the case for a second - the potential gain is in
> fractions of a percent basically, the potential loss however is HUGE.
> There's absolutely no way on earth I'd ever make this dynamic.
If this is intended for databases, it might be backwards (;-))
The commercial unix "forcedirectio" option that Oracle and other
database vendors usually ask for turns out to be a benefit
in large sequential data transfers, because it does two things:
1) transfers directly between user address space and disk, avoiding buffering, and
2) allows enthusiastic coalescence of synchronous writes
Is this intended for DBMSs, or for something esle?
--dave
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-24 15:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-23 19:08 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] Skip I/O merges when disabled Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-23 19:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] Add flag and sysfs interfaces Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-23 19:14 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] Have __make_request skip merges when disabled Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-23 19:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] Do not use rqhash when merges disabled Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-24 0:37 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-04-24 0:59 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-24 2:07 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-04-24 7:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] Skip I/O merges when disabled Jens Axboe
2008-04-24 12:09 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-25 8:38 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-25 11:17 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-25 11:25 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-25 12:06 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-04-25 12:14 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-25 12:17 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-28 16:36 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-29 7:37 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-24 20:38 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-24 13:29 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-24 13:59 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-24 14:13 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-24 15:05 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-24 22:04 ` Carl Henrik Lunde
2008-04-25 7:13 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-24 14:15 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-24 15:04 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-24 15:53 ` David Collier-Brown [this message]
2008-04-24 16:29 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-24 13:31 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-24 13:43 ` Alan D. Brunelle
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