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From: "Alan D. Brunelle" <Alan.Brunelle@hp.com>
To: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: davecb@sun.com, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/3] Skip I/O merges when disabled
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:29:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4810B55A.3090701@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4810ACEA.5070401@sun.com>

David Collier-Brown wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 24 2008, Andi Kleen wrote:
>>
>>>> Not a good idea IMHO, it's much better with an explicit setting. That
>>>> way you don't introduce indeterministic behavior.
>>>
>>> So you would be deterministically slower.
>>
>>
>> Yes, absolutely. Think about the case for a second - the potential
>> gain is in
>> fractions of a percent basically, the potential loss however is HUGE.
>> There's absolutely no way on earth I'd ever make this dynamic.
> 
>  If this is intended for databases, it might be backwards (;-))
>  The commercial unix "forcedirectio" option that Oracle and other
> database vendors usually ask for turns out to be a benefit
> in large sequential data transfers, because it does two things:
> 
> 1) transfers directly between user address space and disk, avoiding
> buffering, and
> 2) allows enthusiastic coalescence of synchronous writes
> 
>  Is this intended for DBMSs, or for something esle?
> 
> --dave

No, it's intended for devices being used for /random IO loads/ - like
index seeks during OLTP and the like. But in general, the idea is if you
know you have a highly random IO work load, you can set the tunable and
get back a significant chunk of CPU cycles.

Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-24 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-23 19:08 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] Skip I/O merges when disabled Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-23 19:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] Add flag and sysfs interfaces Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-23 19:14 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] Have __make_request skip merges when disabled Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-23 19:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] Do not use rqhash when merges disabled Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-24  0:37   ` Aaron Carroll
2008-04-24  0:59     ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-24  2:07       ` Aaron Carroll
2008-04-24  7:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] Skip I/O merges when disabled Jens Axboe
2008-04-24 12:09   ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-25  8:38     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-25 11:17       ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-25 11:25         ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-25 12:06           ` Aaron Carroll
2008-04-25 12:14             ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-25 12:17         ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-28 16:36           ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-29  7:37             ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-24 20:38   ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-24 13:29 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-24 13:59   ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-24 14:13     ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-24 15:05       ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-24 22:04       ` Carl Henrik Lunde
2008-04-25  7:13       ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-24 14:15     ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-24 15:04       ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-24 15:53         ` David Collier-Brown
2008-04-24 16:29           ` Alan D. Brunelle [this message]
2008-04-24 13:31 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2008-04-24 13:43   ` Alan D. Brunelle

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