From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S935054AbYD1O0W (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:26:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S933743AbYD1O0M (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:26:12 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:33585 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933118AbYD1O0L (ORCPT ); Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:26:11 -0400 Message-ID: <4815DCEF.3000602@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:19:27 -0300 From: Glauber Costa User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergio Luis CC: Ken Moffat , Bart Van Assche , LKML , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: 2.6.25 slow boot/reboot References: <48141111.7010605@larces.uece.br> <20080427235554.GA28344@deepthought> <48152747.4030107@larces.uece.br> In-Reply-To: <48152747.4030107@larces.uece.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Sergio Luis wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 05:23:57PM +0200, Bart Van Assche wrote: >>> On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Sergio Luis wrote: >>>> This weekend I got some time and decided to try out 2.6.25, but its booting process was _really_ slow in my laptop[1]. With 'old' 2.6.24.5 my machine would take about 48 secs until it gave me the login prompt. And it would take about 22 seconds to reboot. >>> Do you use LILO or GRUB for booting ? 2.6.25 works OK on the systems I >>> tested, but LILO really needs a lot of time to load the 2.6.25 kernel. >>> GRUB loads the 2.6.25 kernel at normal speed. >>> >>> Bart. >> ISTR that an _old_ version of lilo was mentioned earlier in this >> thread. As a datapoint, on my one desktop box which uses lilo (an >> athlon64 uniprocessor) both 32 and 64-bit 2.6.25 kernels boot fine. >> Both of those systems are with lilo-22.8, and gcc-4.2.2. >> >> But, I think you (Bart) haven't said which version of lilo you are >> using ? If it isn't recent, perhaps upgrading it might help ? >> >> For Sergio, you have my sympathy. I totally failed to bisect my own >> problem with 2.6.25-rc (and 2.6.24.1), although I did find the problem >> by other means, and got a work-around, so I'm not competent to >> diagnose what is wrong, but maybe I can help to tease out what is >> different about your box. As a start, you could try diffing your >> config's for 2.6.24.5 and 2.6.25 in case something odd has changed. >> > > I tried bisecting and after some hours I got > 9713277607f9eac7d655c6854dd92bc2ce1b6f02 as first bad commit > > commit 9713277607f9eac7d655c6854dd92bc2ce1b6f02 > Author: Glauber de Oliveira Costa > Date: Wed Mar 19 14:25:43 2008 -0300 > > x86: boot cpus from cpu_up, instead of prepare_cpus > > After all the infrastructure work, we're now prepared > to boot the cpus from cpu_up, and not from prepare_cpus. > So the difference between cold boot and hotplug is effectively > over, and the functions are used to the purposes they're meant to. > > Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa > Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar > > (cc'ing Glauber and Ingo, maybe they can help) > >> Or, perhaps this is a problem specific to a certain processor ? So >> far, I think all the list knows is that you have a problem, and an >> old version of lilo. More data might eventually help to identify >> what is causing this. If you have a fairly old version of lilo, >> maybe you also have an old version of gcc ? > > lilo version is 22.8 > gcc version is 4.1.2 > the processor is an amd turion 64x2 2.0 ghz (tl-60) and I am building a 32bit kernel. > please, let me know if more info is needed. > >> For Bart too, which version(s) of gcc are you using on the systems >> where lilo is slow to load, and which cpu(s) do you have there ? >> >> Ken, who relies on lilo for his server, and gets worried by reports >> of trouble with it. > > note lilo is indeed much slower than grub to start booting the kernel here, but I am > talking about this 2.6.25 kernel taking almost 5 min to finish the boot process (once it is > actually started by the bootloader) when it would take less than 1 minute with 2.6.24.5 in > this same machine. > > thanks, Can you give me more information on that? your .config and cpuinfo would be a great start. I'm specially interested in things involving APIC.