From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759632AbYD3HLv (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:11:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755385AbYD3HLb (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:11:31 -0400 Received: from mail.netone.net.tr ([193.192.98.182]:50692 "EHLO mail.netone.net.tr" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1760797AbYD3HLa (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:11:30 -0400 Message-ID: <48181B9F.2040203@netone.net.tr> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:11:27 +0300 From: Tarkan Erimer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Newall CC: David Miller , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: Slow DOWN, please!!! References: <20080429.190352.137408408.davem@davemloft.net> <4817EF91.4080800@davidnewall.com> In-Reply-To: <4817EF91.4080800@davidnewall.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2008 07:09:15.0464 (UTC) FILETIME=[197CAC80:01C8AA91] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org David Newall wrote: > Yes. The Linux process is becoming unreliable. Newly "stable" versions > have stability problems. The development process looks childish. > Seasoned developers say not to worry, that the process works. I do > worry. BSD seems more attractive, and it may even be worth the > considerable effort to switch my entire client-base. Linux was lucky to > gain the foothold that it did: traditionally, BSD had a better system > with a less restrictive licence, so it is surprising that manufacturers > chose to go with Linux. BSD still has a less restrictive licence and > when mainstream press becomes interested in Linux's quality problems > it's adoption will fall. BSD is still a good, maybe even better, option. > > Linus, this is your baby and so it's your problem. Only you have the > influence to change things. > I completely disagree with your foolish and nonsense comments about the Linux Kernel and the Linux OS. It's perfectly clear that you didn't understand well enough how the linux development process works. If you thought that the recently released kernels are not stable then, you have to wait the 2.6.x.y series or you can use the distro kernels. All of your comments are pointless and no base. You are free to choose BSD or whatever you want to use. No one is putting a gun on your head to use Linux :-) I can very easily say that,cause of my experiences , the Linux Kernel is PERFECTLY STABLE! I work in an one of the largest ISP of my country and I use Linux very intensively under very high loads and I NEVER NEVER faced any problems because of the fault of the Linux Kernel on my environments. For example, many of our mail servers run on Linux and all the day they process hundred thousands emails without any downtime or trouble! The manufactures mostly choose Linux instead of BSD flavors, simply because of that Linux kernel, technically, more superior to BSDs or others. When it comes to licenses: the BSD license is more and more worse, if GPL is bad. GPL protects your freedom and openness of the codes via forcing the changes to the source code must be return in open form. For BSD, it is opposite. You are free to take someone else's code and there is NO PROTECTION to prevent your code to become a closed (proprietary) source. Can you imagine that one company (like Microsoft) takes your whole kernel source code and creates a PROPRIETARY OS (Like Windows!) as making a fool of you ? Why? Because; simply, BSD license allows it! No need to return the code! Do you think really think that BSD license is more free as making a fool of you ?