From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762892AbYEAQ22 (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2008 12:28:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753156AbYEAQ2G (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2008 12:28:06 -0400 Received: from mga11.intel.com ([192.55.52.93]:41635 "EHLO mga11.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753678AbYEAQ2F (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2008 12:28:05 -0400 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,422,1204531200"; d="scan'208";a="323455069" Message-ID: <4819EF53.6090808@intel.com> Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 09:26:59 -0700 From: "Kok, Auke" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080417) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: devzero@web.de CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RFC: starting a kernel-testers group for newbies References: <261643149@web.de> In-Reply-To: <261643149@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2008 16:28:02.0740 (UTC) FILETIME=[53B6BF40:01C8ABA8] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org devzero@web.de wrote: >> I'll try to do this: >> - create some Wiki page >> - get a mailing list at vger >> - point newbies to this mailing list >> - tell people there which kernels to test >> - figure out and document stuff like how to bisect between -next kernels >> - help them to do whatever is required for a proper bug report > > good idea :) > > one more: > reported bugs sometimes get lost in lkml (or elsewhere) and may not get the attention they need. > > maybe there are not enough people who put some steadiness into tracking bugs (i.e. put them in bugzilla and make sure they get tracked/resolved) ? I would say that this should be one of the main goals - have a team of people who can consistently be assigned bugs for duplication and verification. Getting newly opened bugs reproduced can be half the solution (and a great way to learn the kernel on the side). often the reporter of the bug never confirms that the bug is fixed - another place where linux testers can help out... Auke