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From: David Collier-Brown <davecb@sun.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Willy Tarreau" <w@1wt.eu>, "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>,
	"Stephen Rothwell" <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Offtopic to: LogFS merge
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 13:59:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <481CA812.2030404@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0805031014300.5994@woody.linux-foundation.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> The real issue for me wrt a filesystem is the on-disk layout.
> 
> If we know that on-disk structures need change, we shouldn't merge it. It 
> doesn't matter if that can be worked around with some backwards- 
> compatibiltiy flag: we should simply not encourage that kind of behaviour.

  I agree in particular, but not in principle (;-))

  Changing the filesystem format was something that happened at
least twice on Multics, on production machines. I happened to be
on during one of the changes and didn't even know it was happening
until there was a broadcast message warning of poor performance.

  I always thought that was cool, and got permission recently to
post a colleague's paper on it at http://www.multicians.org/stachour.html

  It would be cool if data could change at run-time on Linux, just
like security-sensitive code.

--dave
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-03 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-02 13:32 LogFS merge Jörn Engel
2008-05-02 14:49 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-02 15:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-02 20:33     ` Jörn Engel
2008-05-02 16:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-05-02 21:47   ` Jörn Engel
2008-05-02 17:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-02 20:21   ` Jörn Engel
2008-05-02 20:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-02 21:31       ` Jörn Engel
2008-05-02 21:39         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-02 21:58           ` Jörn Engel
2008-05-03  7:03             ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-03  9:11               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-03  9:18                 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-05-03  9:37                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-03  9:44                 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-03 11:06                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-03 17:16               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-03 17:59                 ` David Collier-Brown [this message]
2008-05-02 17:29 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-02 21:34   ` Jörn Engel
2008-05-05 20:31 ` Andrew Morton

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