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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Venki Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>
Cc: Rufus & Azrael <rufus-azrael@numericable.fr>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Siddha, Suresh B" <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	Linux-kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [2.6.25-git18 => 2.6.26-rc1-git1] Xorg crash with	xf86MapVidMem error
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 16:54:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <482392C4.7080901@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080508234016.GA14169@linux-os.sc.intel.com>

Venki Pallipadi wrote:
> On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 02:59:31PM -0700, Venkatesh Pallipadi wrote:
>>>
>> I agree we need a better range check in place. But, the current one was not
>> really doing anything useful and actually causing the side-effect
>> regression. So, I felt not having it is better solution for now.
>>
>> Other solution is to stay with start and end range check and just ignore the
>> range check error with WC overlap in case where UC_MINUS is requested.
>>
>> Given the way MTRRs are defined, the only way to do the full range check
>> seems to be to go over page by page (from start to end), and check which
>> variable range MTTR it matches with, which is obviously very excessive. As,
>> this is not a problem in typical usage scenario.
>>

I don't believe that is true in the slightest.  You can iterate over the 
variable MTRRs and see if any part of them overlaps the target range; 
doing exhaustive enumeration is clearly bogus, especially on 64-bit 
platforms.

> 
> Also, note that we only look for start while looking at fixed range MTRRs.
> This is not as scary as it seems. We are finding the effective memory type
> by just looking at the start of the address range. We still go through
> the PAT reserve free mechanism, once we find the effective memory type
> and that list will catch any other users with conflicting type anywhere
> in the start to end range. And we will still keep effective type consistent
> across all mappings.
> 

So what you're saying here is "it's bogus, but it doesn't really matter 
anyway?"  Why bother having it at all, then?

Seriously, if it's not unconditionally correct, then:

a. it should be *clearly* labelled a heuristic.
b. it should be *clearly* explained why having the heuristic is much 
better than not having anything.

In this case, neither of those conditions appear to be addressed.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-08 23:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-04  8:24 [2.6.25-git18 => 2.6.26-rc1-git1] Xorg crash with xf86MapVidMem error Rufus & Azrael
2008-05-04  8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-04  9:03   ` Rufus & Azrael
2008-05-05 17:26     ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-05 22:19       ` Rufus & Azrael
2008-05-05 23:25         ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-05-05 23:49           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-06  2:09             ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-05-06 11:55               ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                 ` <4820962B.6050702@numericable.fr>
2008-05-06 20:34                   ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-05-06 21:56                     ` Rufus & Azrael
2008-05-06 22:05                       ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-05-07 20:58                         ` Rufus & Azrael
2008-05-07 22:12                           ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-05-08  7:08                             ` Rufus & Azrael
2008-05-08 13:18                               ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
     [not found]                               ` <B5B0CFF685D7DF46A05CF1678CFB42ED20E04609@orsmsx423.amr.corp.intel.com>
2008-05-08 19:25                                 ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-05-08 20:08                                   ` Rufus & Azrael
2008-05-08 21:37                                     ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-05-08 21:42                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                         ` <20080508215931.GA5035@jamoon.sc.intel.com>
2008-05-08 23:40                                           ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-05-08 23:54                                             ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-05-09  0:34                                               ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-05-09  0:49                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-09  0:52                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-09 13:46                                                   ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2008-05-29 19:01                                                 ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-05-29 21:51                                                   ` Rufus & Azrael
2008-05-31  8:10                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-06 22:51                 ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-05-07  7:06                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-07 21:42 ` Yinghai Lu

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