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From: KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
To: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Cc: greg@kroah.com, morgan@kernel.org, serue@us.ibm.com,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] exporting capability name/code pairs (for 2.6.26)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:36:10 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <482A33FA.5030109@ak.jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <480EE1F6.3070205@ak.jp.nec.com>

Chris, what is the status of the patch?

KaiGai Kohei wrote:
> Chris Wright wrote:
>> * KaiGai Kohei (kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com) wrote:
>>> [PATCH 2/3] exporting capability name/code pairs
>>>
>>> This patch enables to export code/name pairs of capabilities the running
>>> kernel supported.
>>>
>>> A newer kernel sometimes adds new capabilities, like CAP_MAC_ADMIN
>>> at 2.6.25. However, we have no interface to disclose what capabilities
>>> are supported on the running kernel. Thus, we have to maintain libcap
>>> version in appropriate one synchronously.
>>>
>>> This patch enables libcap to collect the list of capabilities at run 
>>> time,
>>> and provide them for users. It helps to improve portability of library.
>>>
>>> It exports these information as regular files under 
>>> /sys/kernel/capability.
>>> The numeric node exports its name, the symbolic node exports its code.
>>
>> I do not understand why this is necessary.  The capability bits are an 
>> ABI
>> that shouldn't change in a non-backward compat way (i.e. only additions).
>>
>> We typically don't export strings <-> number conversions for constants.
>> I know you've explained this a few times before, but it still seems to me
>> like a userspace only problem.  What can userspace do with a capability
>> it does not know about?
> 
> When we run a userspace utility on the latest kernel, it has to be compiled
> with kernel-headers which have same capability set at least.
> If installed userspace utility does not support newly added capabilities,
> it requires users to rebuild their utilities when they update the kernel.
> 
> Typically, kernel developer faces this kind of version mismatching.
> When they boots their kernel with new capabilities, it also requires to
> rebuild libcap. Then, they have to revert it, when they boots with normal
> kernel.
> 
> If libcap can know what capabilities are supported on the running kernel
> automatically, it does not need users to rebuild libcap concurrently.
> 
> Thanks,

-- 
OSS Platform Development Division, NEC
KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-14  0:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-25  6:06 [PATCH 0/3] exporting capability name/code pairs (final#2) Kohei KaiGai
2008-02-25  6:10 ` [PATCH 1/3] add a private data field within kobj_attribute structure (final#2) Kohei KaiGai
2008-02-25  6:51   ` Greg KH
2008-02-25  6:57     ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-02-25  7:47       ` Greg KH
2008-02-25 10:04         ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-02-26 20:09           ` Greg KH
2008-02-28  5:49   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-03-03  4:42     ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-02-25  6:10 ` [PATCH 2/3] exporting capability name/code pairs (final#2) Kohei KaiGai
2008-02-26 14:55   ` Andrew G. Morgan
2008-02-26 20:58     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-03-07  4:30       ` Kohei KaiGai
2008-03-07  4:53         ` Greg KH
2008-02-25  6:10 ` [PATCH 3/3] a new example to use kobject/kobj_attribute (final#2) Kohei KaiGai
2008-04-22 11:12 ` [PATCH 0/3] exporting capability name/code pairs (for 2.6.26) KaiGai Kohei
2008-04-22 11:17   ` [PATCH 1/3] add a private data field within kobj_attribute structure KaiGai Kohei
2008-04-22 11:18   ` [PATCH 2/3] exporting capability name/code pairs KaiGai Kohei
2008-04-22 11:18   ` [PATCH 3/3] a new example to use kobject/kobj_attribute KaiGai Kohei
2008-04-22 19:29   ` [PATCH 0/3] exporting capability name/code pairs (for 2.6.26) Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-23  0:38     ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-04-23  7:03       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-04-23  7:37         ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-05-13 22:12           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-05-14  0:34             ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-04-23  5:37   ` Chris Wright
2008-04-23  7:15     ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-05-14  0:36       ` KaiGai Kohei [this message]
2008-05-14  0:52         ` Chris Wright
2008-05-14  5:57           ` KaiGai Kohei
2008-05-15  5:48             ` Andrew Morgan
2008-05-15  7:47               ` KaiGai Kohei

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