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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio_net: free transmit skbs in a timer
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:59:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <482AAA0F.2020607@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200805141607.26306.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

Rusty Russell wrote:
>> Sorry to barge in late, but IMO the timer should be on the host, which
>> is cheaper than on the guest (well, a 100ms timer is likely zero cost,
>> but  I still don't like it).
>>
>> the host should fire a tx completion interrupt whenever the completion
>> queue has "enough" entries, where we can define "enough" now as the
>> halfway mark or a timer expiry, whichever comes earlier.
>>
>> We can later improve "enough" to be "just enough so the timer never
>> triggers" and adjust it dynamically.  It probably doesn't matter for
>> Linux, but I don't want to punish guests that can do true async
>> networking and depend on timely completion notification.
>>     
>
> This implies that we should not be supressing notifications in the guest at 
> all (unless we're sure there are more packets to come, which currently we 
> never are: that needs new net infrastructure).
>   

We don't have to be sure, just reasonably confident.  If we see a stream 
of packets, we open the window, but set a timer in case we're wrong.  
The expectation is that the timer will only fire when tx rate drops (or 
tx stops completely).

> But that means we'd get a notification on every xmit at the moment.  
> Benchmarks anyone?
>   

Notification on every xmit will surely kill performance.  I'm trying to 
get batching to work but also good latency when the link is not saturated.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-14  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-30 14:31 [PATCH] virtio_net: free transmit skbs in a timer Mark McLoughlin
2008-05-02 10:55 ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-12 20:37   ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-05-13  7:47     ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-14  6:07       ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-14  8:59         ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-05-15 15:29           ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-05-15 15:32             ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-15 23:25               ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-18  6:40                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-18 14:16                   ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-18 14:27                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-19  1:52                       ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-19 10:26                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-19 12:21                           ` Rusty Russell
2008-05-19 13:26                             ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-20  1:37                               ` Rusty Russell

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