From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756536AbYENVU6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 May 2008 17:20:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754029AbYENVUr (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 May 2008 17:20:47 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:40788 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752470AbYENVUq (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 May 2008 17:20:46 -0400 Message-ID: <482B56B9.8040703@zytor.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:16:41 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andi Kleen CC: Alan Cox , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Peter Zijlstra , Thomas Gleixner , Alexander Viro Subject: Re: [announce] "kill the Big Kernel Lock (BKL)" tree References: <20080514174955.GA515@elte.hu> <87fxsk7n7e.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> <20080514220034.51eae9e0@core> <482B5614.3060203@firstfloor.org> In-Reply-To: <482B5614.3060203@firstfloor.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Andi Kleen wrote: > Alan Cox wrote: >>> Most of the legacy users are unlikely to be latency problems, >>> simply because only very few people (or nobody) still has that hardware >>> and the code will never run. >>> >>> Also I wouldn't lose sleep over e.g. let ISDN continue using BKL forever. >> Most > > Most? > >> of the legacy users inflict that locking on other code - eg the ISN >> use of the BKL directly impacts on the tty layer work. > > So you just stick unlock_kernel()/lock_kernel() around the call > to TTY (or similar to the entry points) > ... assuming that the ISDN code doesn't assume lock continuity across the TTY call. -hpa