From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756980AbYEOTL4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 May 2008 15:11:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1762191AbYEOTLp (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 May 2008 15:11:45 -0400 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:52396 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751438AbYEOTLo (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 May 2008 15:11:44 -0400 Message-ID: <482C8AE7.7070709@garzik.org> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:11:35 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Jones CC: Alan Cox , "Brandeburg, Jesse" , Chris Peterson , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] drivers/net: remove network drivers' last few uses of IRQF_SAMPLE_RANDOM References: <20080515142154.0595e475@core> <36D9DB17C6DE9E40B059440DB8D95F52052D71BB@orsmsx418.amr.corp.intel.com> <20080515173939.1ec968be@core> <482C7DA3.1090809@garzik.org> <482C8606.6000308@hp.com> In-Reply-To: <482C8606.6000308@hp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.2.4 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.4 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Rick Jones wrote: > Jeff Garzik wrote: >> >> >> The Treacherous Platform Module includes an RNG. >> >> Someone (hi Jesse?) should implement support for TPM_GetRandom. >> >> All the specs are public, and the hardware is already in users' hands. > > I will not pretend to understand everything mentioned, but having web > searched on "TPM RNG" I came across this: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg06299.html > > which may either encourage or discourage depending on one's point of view. Yep, in theory you can do it in userspace right now, with zero kernel modifications. But just my gut feeling about the Treacherous Platform Module makes me think we should have a kernel driver, for both ease of use, and ease of replacement should that usage turn out to be unwise. Jeff