From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762016AbYESSKi (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 May 2008 14:10:38 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755263AbYESSKb (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 May 2008 14:10:31 -0400 Received: from mail.aknet.ru ([78.158.192.26]:54837 "EHLO mail.aknet.ru" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752745AbYESSKa (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 May 2008 14:10:30 -0400 Message-ID: <4831C283.3050306@aknet.ru> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 22:10:11 +0400 From: Stas Sergeev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Engelhardt CC: Takashi Iwai , LKML Subject: Re: Non-working snd-pcsp References: <482737BE.20502@infracom.it> <4827415A.7060101@aknet.ru> <482756F0.8020609@infracom.it> <48275D8D.10500@aknet.ru> <4827F0A1.9090600@infracom.it> <48288ACC.1020909@aknet.ru> <48299F08.2060702@infracom.it> <4829B6A1.90707@infracom.it> <482A7A17.8070706@infracom.it> <482C9A3E.3000009@infracom.it> <482C9F3E.4050104@aknet.ru> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hello. Jan Engelhardt wrote: > Previously, with Stas's standalone patch, one was able to switch > between (a) no speaker (b) beep/pcspkr (c) beep/pcspkr and > PCM/snd-pcsp, all by means of modprobe/rmmod. But now you can get any such combination by the use of alsamixer only. > Except if snd-pcsp itself contains beep code, and that would > be sort of redundant when it is already in pcspkr. It is redundant only if you _intend_ to use both drivers. But its usually a bad idea to have multiple drivers serving the single device simultaneously. The other way of thinking about it, is that you simply use a new driver instead of an old one. The new one does everything the old one did and more. Since they can't be built together, the redundancy is then only in a source code. I am not saying it is an ideal solution. It is not, but for only a single reason - people who need only beeps, may not want to have the entire sound subsystem loaded. So they want pcspkr to be at least built. But getting these drivers back together again, suddenly became very problematic...