From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Cc: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, roland@redhat.com, drepper@redhat.com,
Hongjiu.lu@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
arjan@linux.intel.com, rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk, dan@debian.org,
asit.k.mallick@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] x86: xsave/xrstor support, ucontext_t extensions
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:02:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4835DF64.6080104@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080522205619.GB7998@linux-os.sc.intel.com>
Suresh Siddha wrote:
>
> hpa, What is the virtualization problem? Are you referring to perf problem?
> As you noted, regular non-rt signal handlers won't need this cpuid check. It's
> needed only for those who manually look at non-rt signal frames and interpret it.
> And also, they can do this check only once and not everytime.
>
No, relying on CPUID and vdso both have implications for virtualization.
> To me, prtcl() just seems to be an overkill.
I don't think it is ... it's not overkill but rather "underkill"... it's
a low-performance solution but it's guaranteed to be safe in the
presence of virtualization of all its various ilk. Note that you don't
need to be able to *set* the format via prctl(), just *query* (get) it.
Using prctl() allows us to make this personality-dependent if we ever
need to.
> While restoring from the user, kernel also need to find out what layout
> the user is passing. So it's bi-directional. I prefer the same mechanism
> (using cookies/magic numbers etc inaddition to uc_flags or cpuid checks) to
> interpret the fpstate for both user/kernel.
No, it really doesn't: the kernel only needs to be able to read the same
format as it itself wrote.
> ARM also seem to be using similar things while extending their ucontext_t,
> with out other kernel interfaces to indicate the layout.
>
> BTW, how come 32bit kernel doesn't have the X86_FXSR_MAGIC checks, while restoring
> the extended fxsave data from _fpstate?
Again, the kernel already knows the format, so it doesn't need to check.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-22 21:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-13 1:10 [RFC] x86: xsave/xrstor support, ucontext_t extensions Suresh Siddha
2008-05-16 13:26 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-18 1:34 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-19 14:52 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-19 15:04 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-19 16:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-19 16:57 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-19 17:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 1:57 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-20 8:58 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-20 10:01 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-20 13:19 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-20 14:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 15:20 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-20 17:53 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-20 17:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22 0:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22 0:53 ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-22 1:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22 6:40 ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-22 7:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22 8:49 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-22 8:57 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-22 20:56 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-22 21:02 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-05-22 21:29 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-22 21:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22 22:22 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-23 1:48 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-23 2:12 ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-23 2:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23 18:09 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-06-06 0:28 ` x86: xsave/xrstor support; " H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-06 20:14 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-06-06 23:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23 2:45 ` [RFC] x86: xsave/xrstor support, " H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23 11:46 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-23 12:11 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-22 21:32 ` Chris Wright
2008-05-22 22:15 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-22 22:29 ` Chris Wright
2008-05-23 0:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23 0:44 ` Chris Wright
2008-05-22 22:36 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-05-23 0:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23 0:42 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-23 1:33 ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-23 16:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-23 17:50 ` Suresh Siddha
2008-05-23 2:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 17:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 14:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-20 15:03 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-20 20:10 ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-22 0:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-22 0:47 ` Roland McGrath
2008-05-22 8:14 ` Andi Kleen
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