From: Glen Turner <gdt@gdt.id.au>
To: Bill Fink <billfink@mindspring.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
James Cammarata <jimi@sngx.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: add ability to clear stats via ethtool - e1000/pcnet32
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:20:45 +0930 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48437C25.7080400@gdt.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080531195702.0b879dd1.billfink@mindspring.com>
> Yes, every individual Linux network administrator can re-create the
> wheel by devising their own scripts, but it makes much more sense
> to me to implement a simple general kernel mechanism once that could
> be used generically, than to have hundreds (or thousands) of Linux
> network administrators each having to do it themselves (perhaps
> multiple times if they have a variety of types of systems and types
> of NICs).
Hi Bill,
If you pull the stats using a SNMP polling tool (torrus, cacti, mrtg)
then those package's graphs give nice "did this get better or worse"
output for debugging network issues.
I'd suggest you use one of those tools rather than writing your
own scripts. Even if 99% of the time the graphs record zero errors,
knowing when those errors started is very valuable and well worth
the additional effort of configuring the tools over a command-line
or a kernel hack.
The more sophisticated tools can do alerting to Nagios should
a variable suddenly change its behaviour.
The Cisco/Juniper/everyone-else feature to run console stats
separately from SNMP stats is nice, but it's rather tuned to
the needs of router-heads and tends to fall apart when multiple
staff are debugging a fault.
If we do proceed with better command line stats then the number
of errored seconds and the worst errored second and its value
would be useful. These useful numbers can't be calculated by
the SNMP polling tools and it's hard to see how they could be
done in user-space.
Cheers, Glen
--
Glen Turner
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-02 4:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-16 15:18 [PATCH updated] net: add ability to clear per-interface network statistics via procfs James Cammarata
2008-05-16 16:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-05-16 20:03 ` David Miller
2008-05-17 14:54 ` James Cammarata
2008-05-17 21:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-05-17 22:49 ` James Cammarata
2008-05-18 0:31 ` Ben Hutchings
2008-05-18 1:43 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-05-18 5:09 ` James Cammarata
2008-05-18 11:27 ` Ben Hutchings
2008-05-29 1:45 ` [PATCH] net: add ability to clear stats via ethtool - e1000/pcnet32 James Cammarata
2008-05-29 2:08 ` James Cammarata
2008-05-29 5:11 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-29 12:34 ` James Cammarata
2008-05-29 14:45 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-29 17:15 ` James Cammarata
2008-05-29 20:50 ` David Miller
2008-05-29 21:18 ` James Cammarata
2008-05-30 19:12 ` Bill Fink
2008-05-30 22:14 ` Rick Jones
2008-05-31 1:09 ` Bill Fink
2008-05-31 2:41 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-05-31 4:47 ` Bill Fink
2008-05-31 12:11 ` Alan Cox
2008-05-31 23:57 ` Bill Fink
2008-06-01 1:46 ` Ben Hutchings
2008-06-01 20:46 ` Bill Fink
2008-06-01 22:29 ` Ben Hutchings
2008-06-02 3:55 ` Bill Fink
2008-06-02 5:39 ` David Miller
2008-06-02 15:41 ` Bill Fink
2008-06-02 4:50 ` Glen Turner [this message]
2008-06-02 16:10 ` Bill Fink
2008-06-03 12:28 ` James Cammarata
2008-06-03 12:35 ` Ben Hutchings
2008-06-03 14:46 ` Alan Cox
2008-06-04 3:05 ` James Cammarata
2008-05-29 14:48 ` Chris Friesen
2008-05-16 20:00 ` [PATCH updated] net: add ability to clear per-interface network statistics via procfs David Miller
2008-05-16 20:09 ` Rick Jones
2008-05-17 15:06 ` James Cammarata
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