From: Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Ingo Oeser <ioe-lkml@rameria.de>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
"Derek L. Fults" <dfults@sgi.com>, devik <devik@cdi.cz>,
Dimitri Sivanich <sivanich@sgi.com>,
Dinakar Guniguntala <dino@in.ibm.com>,
Emmanuel Pacaud <emmanuel.pacaud@univ-poitiers.fr>,
Frederik Deweerdt <deweerdt@free.fr>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Matthew Dobson <colpatch@us.ibm.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
rostedt@goodmis.org, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
"Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>,
suresh.b.siddha@intel.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: Inquiry: Should we remove "isolcpus= kernel boot option? (may have realtime uses)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:04:21 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48447C75.8040203@qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1212446707.6269.26.camel@lappy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 00:35 +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> in short: NAK!
>>
>> On Monday 02 June 2008, Paul Jackson wrote:
>>> (Aside to the RealTime folks -- is there a 'realtime'
>>> email list which I should include in this discussion?)
>>>
>>> The kernel has a "isolcpus=" kernel boot time parameter. This
>>> parameter isolates CPUs from scheduler load balancing, minimizing the
>>> impact of scheduler latencies on realtime tasks running on those CPUs.
>> I used it to mask out a defect CPU on a 8-CPU node of a
>> HPC-cluster at a customer site, until the $BIG_VENDOR
>> sent a replacement. And to prove $BIG_VENDOR, that we actually
>> have a problem on THAT CPU.
>>
>> So I would really like to keep this fault isolation capability.
>> I made my customer happy with that.
>>
>> I wish Linux had more such "mask out bad hardware" features
>> to faciliate fault isolation and boot and runtime.
>
> Yeah - except that its not meant to be used as such - it will still
> brings the cpu up, and it is still usable for the OS.
>
> So sorry, your abuse doesn't make for a case to keep this abomination.
Ingo, I just wanted to elaborate on what Peter is saying. That CPU will still
have to be _booted_ properly. It may be used for hard- and soft- interrupt
processing, workqueues (internal kernel queuing mechanism) and kernel timers.
In your particular case you're much much much better off with doing
echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpuN/online
either during initrd stage or as a first init script.
That way bad cpu will be _completely_ disabled.
Max
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-02 23:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-02 2:30 Inquiry: Should we remove "isolcpus= kernel boot option? (may have realtime uses) Paul Jackson
2008-06-02 16:42 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-06-02 18:39 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-02 21:41 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-06-02 21:59 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-03 14:40 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-06-03 17:57 ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-06-04 14:00 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-06-04 18:07 ` Stop machine threads are getting preemted by the rt period enforcement Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 18:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-04 18:24 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 18:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-04 20:14 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-02 22:35 ` Inquiry: Should we remove "isolcpus= kernel boot option? (may have realtime uses) Ingo Oeser
2008-06-02 22:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-02 23:04 ` Max Krasnyansky [this message]
2008-06-02 23:55 ` Ingo Oeser
2008-06-03 3:32 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-03 23:47 ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-06-04 0:41 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 4:32 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 4:47 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 12:18 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04 17:41 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 18:29 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 18:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-04 19:34 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 18:58 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 19:31 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 19:37 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 19:45 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 20:05 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04 20:23 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 20:03 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04 20:16 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 20:33 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04 20:38 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 21:16 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 21:17 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 21:20 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 21:26 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 1:18 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04 3:00 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 16:18 ` Ingo Oeser
2008-06-04 17:47 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-03 6:03 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04 9:58 ` Mark Hounschell
2008-06-04 17:26 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 21:00 ` Mark Hounschell
2008-06-04 21:03 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 19:26 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 20:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-04 21:44 ` Michael Trimarchi
2008-06-04 21:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-05 11:16 ` Michael Trimarchi
2008-06-05 12:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-05 14:57 ` Michael Trimarchi
2009-05-08 2:48 ` GeunSik Lim
2008-06-05 11:44 ` Mark Hounschell
2008-06-06 22:28 ` Max Krasnyanskiy
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