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From: Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	ioe-lkml@rameria.de, sivanich@sgi.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel@kolivas.org, dfults@sgi.com,
	devik@cdi.cz, dino@in.ibm.com, emmanuel.pacaud@univ-poitiers.fr,
	deweerdt@free.fr, mingo@elte.hu, colpatch@us.ibm.com,
	nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, rostedt@goodmis.org, oleg@tv-sign.ru,
	paulmck@us.ibm.com, menage@google.com, rddunlap@osdl.org,
	suresh.b.siddha@intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: Inquiry: Should we remove "isolcpus= kernel boot option? (may have realtime uses)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:34:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4846EE4E.3030103@qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1212605794.19205.19.camel@lappy.programming.kicks-ass.net>



Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 11:29 -0700, Max Krasnyansky wrote:
>> Paul Jackson wrote:
>>> Andi wrote:
>>>> Right now the system boot could put pages from some daemon in there before any 
>>>> cpusets are set up and there's no easy way to get them away again
>>> We (SGI) routinely handle that need with a custom init program,
>>> invoked with the init= parameter to the booting kernel, which
>>> sets up cpusets and then invokes the normal (real) init program
>>> in a cpuset configured to exclude those CPUs and nodes which we
>>> want to remain unloaded.  For example, on a 256 CPU, 64 node
>>> system, we might have init running on a single node of 4 CPUs,
>>> and leave the remaining 63 nodes and 252 CPUs isolated from all
>>> the usual user level daemons started by init.
>>>
>>> There is no need for additional kernel changes to accomplish this.
>> You do not even need to replace /sbin/init for this, no ?
>> Simply installing custom
>> 	/etc/init.d/create_cpusets
>> with priority 0
>> 	# chkconfig: 12345 0 99
>> will do the job.
>>
>> That script will move init itself into the appropriate cpuset and from then on
>> everything will inherit it.
> 
> The advantage of using a replacement /sbin/init is that you execute
> before the rest of userspace, unlike what you propose.
That does not matter for the cpu placement (ie the end result is the same) but
does matter for memory placement as PaulJ pointed out.

Thanx
Max

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-04 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-02  2:30 Inquiry: Should we remove "isolcpus= kernel boot option? (may have realtime uses) Paul Jackson
2008-06-02 16:42 ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-06-02 18:39   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-02 21:41     ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-06-02 21:59       ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-03 14:40         ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-06-03 17:57           ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-06-04 14:00           ` Dimitri Sivanich
2008-06-04 18:07             ` Stop machine threads are getting preemted by the rt period enforcement Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 18:18               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-04 18:24                 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 18:55                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-04 20:14                     ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-02 22:35 ` Inquiry: Should we remove "isolcpus= kernel boot option? (may have realtime uses) Ingo Oeser
2008-06-02 22:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-02 23:04     ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-02 23:55       ` Ingo Oeser
2008-06-03  3:32         ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-03 23:47           ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-06-04  0:41             ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04  4:32               ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04  4:47                 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 12:18                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04 17:41                   ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 18:29                     ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 18:56                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-04 19:34                         ` Max Krasnyansky [this message]
2008-06-04 18:58                       ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 19:31                         ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 19:37                           ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 19:45                             ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 20:05                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04 20:23                         ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 20:03                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04 20:16                       ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 20:33                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04 20:38                           ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 21:16                             ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 21:17                               ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 21:20                                 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 21:26                                   ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04  1:18             ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04  3:00               ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 16:18             ` Ingo Oeser
2008-06-04 17:47               ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-03  6:03     ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04  9:58       ` Mark Hounschell
2008-06-04 17:26         ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 21:00           ` Mark Hounschell
2008-06-04 21:03             ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-04 19:26         ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-04 20:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-04 21:44             ` Michael Trimarchi
2008-06-04 21:52               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-05 11:16                 ` Michael Trimarchi
2008-06-05 12:07                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-05 14:57                     ` Michael Trimarchi
2009-05-08  2:48               ` GeunSik Lim
2008-06-05 11:44             ` Mark Hounschell
2008-06-06 22:28               ` Max Krasnyanskiy

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