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From: Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
	mingo@elte.hu, menage@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Subject: Re: [patch] sched: prevent bound kthreads from changing	cpus_allowed
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:38:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <484E9FE8.9040504@qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1213080240.31518.5.camel@twins>



Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 13:59 -0700, Max Krasnyanskiy wrote:
>> David Rientjes wrote:
>>>>  2) Sometimes calls to kthread_bind are binding to any online cpu, such as in:
>>>>
>>>> 	drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_irq.c:	kthread_bind(cct->task, any_online_cpu(cpu_online_map));
>>>>
>>>>     In such cases, the PF_THREAD_BOUND seems inappropriate.  The caller of
>>>>     kthread_bind() really doesn't seem to care where that thread is bound;
>>>>     they just want it on a CPU that is still online.
>>>>
>>> This particular case is simply moving the thread to any online cpu so that 
>>> it survives long enough for the subsequent kthread_stop() in 
>>> destroy_comp_task().  So I don't see a problem with this instance.
>>>
>>> A caller to kthread_bind() can always remove PF_THREAD_BOUND itself upon 
>>> return, but I haven't found any cases in the tree where that is currently 
>>> necessary.  And doing that would defeat the semantics of kthread_bind() 
>>> where these threads are supposed to be bound to a specific cpu and not 
>>> allowed to run on others.
>> Actually I have another use case here. Above example in particular may be ok 
>> but it does demonstrate the issue nicely. Which is that in some cases kthreads 
>> are bound to a CPU but do not have a strict "must run here" requirement and 
>> could be moved if needed.
>> For example I need an ability to move workqueue threads. Workqueue threads do 
>> kthread_bind().
> 
> Per cpu workqueues should stay on their cpu.
> 
> What you're really looking for is a more fine grained alternative to
> flush_workqueue().
Actually I had a discussion on that with Oleg Nesterov. If you remember my
original solution (ie centralized cpu_isolate_map) was to completely redirect
work onto other cpus. Then you pointed out that it's the flush_() that really
makes the box stuck. So I started thinking about redoing the flush. While
looking at the code I realized that if I only change the flush_() then queued
work can get stale so to speak. ie Machine does not get stuck but some work
submitted on the isolated cpus will sit there for a long time. Oleg pointed
out exact same thing. So the simplest solution that does not require any
surgery to the workqueue is to just move the threads to other cpus. I did not
want to get into too much detail on the workqueue stuff here. I'll start a
separate thread on this.
As I pointed out, there are a bunch of other kthreads like: kswapd, kacpid,
pdflush, khubd, etc, etc, that clearly do not need any pinning but still
violate cpuset constraints they inherit from kthreadd.

Max




  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-10 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-05 19:57 [patch] sched: prevent bound kthreads from changing cpus_allowed David Rientjes
2008-06-05 20:29 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-05 21:12   ` David Rientjes
2008-06-09 20:59     ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-06-09 22:07       ` David Rientjes
2008-06-10  4:23         ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 17:04           ` David Rientjes
2008-06-10 16:30         ` cpusets and kthreads, inconsistent behaviour Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 18:47           ` David Rientjes
2008-06-10 20:44             ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 20:54               ` David Rientjes
2008-06-10 21:15                 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10  6:44       ` [patch] sched: prevent bound kthreads from changing cpus_allowed Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-10 15:38         ` Max Krasnyansky [this message]
2008-06-10 17:00           ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-06-10 17:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-10 20:24               ` workqueue cpu affinity Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-11  6:49                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-11 19:02                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-12 18:44                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-12 19:10                       ` Max Krasnyanskiy
2008-06-11 16:08                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-06-11 19:21                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-11 19:21                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-12 16:35                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-06-11 20:44                   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-10 18:00             ` [patch] sched: prevent bound kthreads from changing cpus_allowed Max Krasnyansky
2008-06-05 20:52 ` Daniel Walker
2008-06-05 21:47 ` Paul Jackson
2008-06-10 10:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-10 17:47 ` Oleg Nesterov

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