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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rob Mueller <robm@fastmail.fm>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: BUG: mmapfile/writev spurious zero bytes (x86_64/not i386, bisected, reproducable)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:26:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48582C18.4090900@firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0806171412470.2907@woody.linux-foundation.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> The x86-64 copy_*_user functions were always designed to return errors
>> both ways (as in both for load and for store).
> 
> That's not the problem, Andi.
> 
> The problem is that it returns THE WRONG VALUE!
> 
> If the fault happened on the second load, 

Loads are not supposed to fault in copy_to_user(). Only stores are.

The way it works is that it assumes that either loads fault (when used
as copy_from_user) or stores (copy_to_user), but never both.

> but the first load was never 
> actually paired up with a store (because of unrolling the loop), then YOU 
> MUST NOT CLAIM THAT YOU DID A 8-BYTE COPY! Because you have copied exactly 
> _zero_ bytes, even though you _loaded_ 8 bytes successfully!
> 
> See?
> 
> Claiming that you copied 8 bytes when you didn't do anything at all is 
> WRONG. It's so incredibly wrong that it is scary. 

If your patch fixes something then the main wrong thing is the caller
who passes a faulting source address.

And again it always breaks the other case.

-Andi



  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-17 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-17  6:00 BUG: mmapfile/writev spurious zero bytes (x86_64/not i386, bisected, reproducable) Bron Gondwana
2008-06-17  6:02 ` Bron Gondwana
2008-06-17 17:08   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 17:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 20:16       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 20:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:16             ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-17 21:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:30                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-17 21:37                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:36                 ` Al Viro
2008-06-17 21:42                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-17 21:49                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 22:11                     ` Al Viro
2008-06-17 22:21                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-18  6:22                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-17 21:20             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-18  2:27               ` Bron Gondwana
2008-06-18  3:14               ` Bron Gondwana
2008-06-18  4:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-18  5:11                   ` Cyrus mmap vs lseek/write usage - (WAS: BUG: mmapfile/writev spurious zero bytes (x86_64/not i386, bisected, reproducable)) Bron Gondwana
2008-06-18 16:22                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-18 23:45                       ` Robert Mueller
2008-06-19  0:20                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-03 11:44               ` BUG: mmapfile/writev spurious zero bytes still in the wild Bron Gondwana
2008-10-03 13:07                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-04  0:13                   ` Bron Gondwana
2008-06-17 21:15           ` BUG: mmapfile/writev spurious zero bytes (x86_64/not i386, bisected, reproducable) Andi Kleen
2008-06-17 20:58         ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-17 21:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:26             ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-06-17 21:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:34                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-17 21:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-17 21:46                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-18  6:10                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-18  2:21     ` Bron Gondwana

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