From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux with kvm-intel locks up VMplayer guest is started
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:56:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48591412.2060602@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4857FDE3.8050602@codemonkey.ws>
Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
> We know exactly what the problem is. KVM activates VT
> unconditionally. There's no hardware mechanism to arbitrate access to
> VT. KVM is the only thing in the Linux kernel that uses VT so we
> don't have a software mechanism to arbitrate access to VT.
>
> If the VMware code was upstream, then we could work together to make a
> software arbitration mechanism. It's not, and worse yet, it's closed
> source so there's no chance it will be. Even if someone wrote an
> arbitration mechanism and got VMware to use it, it still shouldn't be
> merged because KVM would be the only thing using that mechanism
> upstream. I'm not interested in adding kernel infrastructure to
> support external binary kernel modules.
Well a recent patch from Eli Collins mentioned VMware are standardizing
CR4.VMXE as an indicator of whether someone is using the VT hardware or
not, and now kvm clears that bit when unloading. We could check the bit
and fail if is set, thus have working mutual exclusion. Of course, it
will only work with newer versions of kvm and vmware.
I don't see any reason to poke sticks into the wheels here.
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-18 13:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-16 15:05 Linux with kvm-intel locks up VMplayer guest is started Martin Michlmayr
2008-06-16 15:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-17 12:39 ` Martin Michlmayr
2008-06-17 13:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-17 13:32 ` Martin Michlmayr
2008-06-17 13:44 ` Martin Michlmayr
2008-06-17 14:02 ` Javier Guerra
2008-06-17 15:29 ` Alan Cox
2008-06-17 18:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-18 13:56 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-06-18 20:59 ` Anthony Liguori
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-18 19:05 devzero
2008-06-18 19:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-19 1:08 ` Eli Collins
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