From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Cc: Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux with kvm-intel locks up VMplayer guest is started
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:59:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48597735.50905@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48591412.2060602@qumranet.com>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>> We know exactly what the problem is. KVM activates VT
>> unconditionally. There's no hardware mechanism to arbitrate access
>> to VT. KVM is the only thing in the Linux kernel that uses VT so we
>> don't have a software mechanism to arbitrate access to VT.
>>
>> If the VMware code was upstream, then we could work together to make
>> a software arbitration mechanism. It's not, and worse yet, it's
>> closed source so there's no chance it will be. Even if someone wrote
>> an arbitration mechanism and got VMware to use it, it still shouldn't
>> be merged because KVM would be the only thing using that mechanism
>> upstream. I'm not interested in adding kernel infrastructure to
>> support external binary kernel modules.
>
> Well a recent patch from Eli Collins mentioned VMware are
> standardizing CR4.VMXE as an indicator of whether someone is using the
> VT hardware or not, and now kvm clears that bit when unloading. We
> could check the bit and fail if is set, thus have working mutual
> exclusion. Of course, it will only work with newer versions of kvm
> and vmware.
Yup, but the original bug reporter would not be helped by this.
> I don't see any reason to poke sticks into the wheels here.
An occasional poke at binary kernel modules is always a good thing IMHO :-)
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-18 21:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-16 15:05 Linux with kvm-intel locks up VMplayer guest is started Martin Michlmayr
2008-06-16 15:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-17 12:39 ` Martin Michlmayr
2008-06-17 13:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-17 13:32 ` Martin Michlmayr
2008-06-17 13:44 ` Martin Michlmayr
2008-06-17 14:02 ` Javier Guerra
2008-06-17 15:29 ` Alan Cox
2008-06-17 18:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-18 13:56 ` Avi Kivity
2008-06-18 20:59 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
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2008-06-18 19:05 devzero
2008-06-18 19:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-19 1:08 ` Eli Collins
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