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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Sean Young <sean@mess.org>, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Regression: boot failure on AMD Elan TS-5500
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:04:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48695871.8000805@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4869558A.9020907@goop.org>

Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>>
>> Looking at the beginning of startup_32, it seems ds is used before it 
>> is set:
>>
>> startup_32:
>>         cld
>>         /* test KEEP_SEGMENTS flag to see if the bootloader is asking
>>          * us to not reload segments */
>>         testb $(1<<6), BP_loadflags(%esi)
>>         jnz 1f
>>
>>         cli
>>         movl $(__BOOT_DS),%eax
>>         movl %eax,%ds
>>         movl %eax,%es
>>         movl %eax,%fs
>>         movl %eax,%gs
>>         movl %eax,%ss
>> 1:
>>
>> Since the testb instruction is a dereference, ds is implicitly used. If
>> I move the testb to after "movl %eax,%ds" it seems to work (not that it
>> would make any sense there, but just to prove the point).
>>
>> 1) Am I barking up the wrong tree?
>>
>> 2) If I'm right I have no idea what the correct solution is; it seems 
>> that
>>    a chicken & egg issue is introduced.
>>
>> Please advise. I am very new to all of this.
> 
> It's a bit odd that the boot loader neglected to set up ds properly, but 
> changing the testb line to
> 
>     testb $(1<<6), %cs:BP_loadflags(%esi)
> 
> should work.  (Or perhaps a %ss: override would be better?)
> 
> I'm assuming that the GDT setup isn't completely mad and that the 
> segments have the same base at least.
> 

This should have been set up by the *boot code* (specifically lines 
57-61 of arch/x86/boot/pmjump.S) since he's using a conventional boot 
loader (syslinux) so something is utterly fuggled up.  Using %cs: here 
should be safe, though (and *is* more conservative, after all, why 
otherwise bother reloading these segments at all?), but it still 
concerns me a great deal if this is broken in this way.  It's definitely 
better than %ss:.

In particular, I'm wondering if the Elan CPU has any strange ordering 
requirements with regards to the protected mode transition that we're 
not obeying.

It would be interesting to put in a heavyweight "brutally synchronizing" 
instruction like WBINVD at various places in arch/x86/boot/pmjump.S and 
see if it helps.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-30 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-16 12:11 Regression: boot failure on AMD Elan TS-5500 Sean Young
2008-06-16 13:27 ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-16 13:37   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-16 16:19     ` Sean Young
2008-06-16 17:06       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-16 17:58         ` Sean Young
2008-06-16 18:16           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-16 17:06       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-16 17:07       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 21:43       ` Sean Young
2008-06-30 21:52         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 22:04           ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-06-30 22:14             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-30 22:36               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 22:45                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-30 22:31             ` Sean Young
2008-06-30 22:34             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 22:42               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-01 19:59                 ` Sean Young
2008-07-01 20:20                   ` Sean Young
2008-07-01 20:24                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 20:25                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-15 22:23                     ` Sean Young
2008-07-15 22:30                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-01 20:22                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 20:23                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-01 20:29                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 20:39                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-06 13:21                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-30 22:09           ` Sean Young
2008-07-06  2:41             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-06  3:07               ` H. Peter Anvin

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