From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Sean Young <sean@mess.org>, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Regression: boot failure on AMD Elan TS-5500
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:34:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48695F88.9080905@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48695871.8000805@zytor.com>
H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>>>
>>> Looking at the beginning of startup_32, it seems ds is used before
>>> it is set:
>>>
>>> startup_32:
>>> cld
>>> /* test KEEP_SEGMENTS flag to see if the bootloader is asking
>>> * us to not reload segments */
>>> testb $(1<<6), BP_loadflags(%esi)
>>> jnz 1f
>>>
>>> cli
>>> movl $(__BOOT_DS),%eax
>>> movl %eax,%ds
>>> movl %eax,%es
>>> movl %eax,%fs
>>> movl %eax,%gs
>>> movl %eax,%ss
>>> 1:
>>>
>>> Since the testb instruction is a dereference, ds is implicitly used. If
>>> I move the testb to after "movl %eax,%ds" it seems to work (not that it
>>> would make any sense there, but just to prove the point).
>>>
>>> 1) Am I barking up the wrong tree?
>>>
>>> 2) If I'm right I have no idea what the correct solution is; it
>>> seems that
>>> a chicken & egg issue is introduced.
>>>
>>> Please advise. I am very new to all of this.
>>
>> It's a bit odd that the boot loader neglected to set up ds properly,
>> but changing the testb line to
>>
>> testb $(1<<6), %cs:BP_loadflags(%esi)
>>
>> should work. (Or perhaps a %ss: override would be better?)
>>
>> I'm assuming that the GDT setup isn't completely mad and that the
>> segments have the same base at least.
>>
>
> This should have been set up by the *boot code* (specifically lines
> 57-61 of arch/x86/boot/pmjump.S) since he's using a conventional boot
> loader (syslinux) so something is utterly fuggled up.
Hm, yeah.
> Using %cs: here should be safe, though (and *is* more conservative,
> after all, why otherwise bother reloading these segments at all?), but
> it still concerns me a great deal if this is broken in this way. It's
> definitely better than %ss:.
>
> In particular, I'm wondering if the Elan CPU has any strange ordering
> requirements with regards to the protected mode transition that we're
> not obeying.
Maybe it really does require the far jump immediately after setting PE
in cr0...
Hm, I don't remember this paragraph being in vol 3a, section 8.9.1
before. Is it a recent addition?
Random failures can occur if other instructions exist between steps
3 and 4 above. Failures will be readily seen in some situations,
such as when instructions that reference memory are inserted between
steps 3 and 4 while in system management mode.
J
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-30 22:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-16 12:11 Regression: boot failure on AMD Elan TS-5500 Sean Young
2008-06-16 13:27 ` Rusty Russell
2008-06-16 13:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-16 16:19 ` Sean Young
2008-06-16 17:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-16 17:58 ` Sean Young
2008-06-16 18:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-16 17:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-16 17:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 21:43 ` Sean Young
2008-06-30 21:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 22:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-30 22:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-30 22:36 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-30 22:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-30 22:31 ` Sean Young
2008-06-30 22:34 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2008-06-30 22:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-01 19:59 ` Sean Young
2008-07-01 20:20 ` Sean Young
2008-07-01 20:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 20:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-15 22:23 ` Sean Young
2008-07-15 22:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-01 20:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 20:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-01 20:29 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-01 20:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-06 13:21 ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-30 22:09 ` Sean Young
2008-07-06 2:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-06 3:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
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