From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Vitaly Mayatskikh <v.mayatskih@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] Introduce copy_user_handle_tail routine
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:54:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <486BCEEC.4060301@firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3tzf8i8gw.fsf@gravicappa.englab.brq.redhat.com>
Vitaly Mayatskikh wrote:
> Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> writes:
>
>>>>>> rep movs can fail.
>>>> How? (if it's a byte copy?)
>>> Parameter len is a number of uncopied bytes,
>> But that is exactly what copy_*_user wants to return
>
> Last experience showed, it doesn't.
?
> Ok, when unrolled version fails on reading quad word at unaligned
> address, it doesn't know where it was failed exactly. At this moment it
> hasn't correct number of uncopied bytes, because some bytes can still
> remain at the very end of the page. copy_user_handle_tail copies them
> and return correct value on uncopied bytes. Complicated logic for
> counting the number of these bytes is not necessary to optimize at
> assembly level, because we already missed performance. It's hard to
> complain against it.
Yes I'm talking about the "replay loop"
There's no complicated logic in a rep ; movs. And it's still
a byte copy. In fact it is far simpler than what you already have.
>> The original version I wrote returned "unfaulted bytes" which was wrong.
>> Correct is "uncopied" as fixed by Linus. rep ; movs returns uncopied.
>
> It's not in C. If you have the proposal why it should be written in
> assembly, send it to Linus.
Well it would turn your 15+ lines C function in ~4 (well tested) lines or so.
>
>>> Why do you think that zeroing can never fail, even in userspace?
>> There's no zeroing in user space, only in kernel space.
>
> Agree.
>
>> The only reason kernel does it is to avoid leaking uninitialized data,
>> but for user space it doesn't make sense (see above)
>
> Ok, copy_in_user can pass zerorest=0 to copy_user_handle_tail. Is it ok
> for you?
My point was that for the zeroing you can just use memset(), there's
no need to support faulting there at all.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-02 18:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-27 21:52 [PATCH 3/3] Fix copy_user on x86_64 Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-06-28 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-30 15:12 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-06-30 15:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-30 16:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-30 18:22 ` Kari Hurtta
2008-07-02 13:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] Introduce copy_user_handle_tail routine Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 14:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-02 14:31 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 15:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-02 15:32 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 15:40 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-02 15:58 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 18:54 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-07-03 2:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-07 12:09 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-07 12:12 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-07 16:43 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-07 16:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-07 17:05 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-09 13:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 13:16 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-09 13:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-02 13:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] Fix copy_user on x86 Vitaly Mayatskikh
2008-07-02 14:08 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-02 14:36 ` Vitaly Mayatskikh
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