From: "Mi, Dapeng" <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Eranian Stephane <eranian@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
Dapeng Mi <dapeng1.mi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch v3 16/22] perf/core: Support to capture higher width vector registers
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 10:00:00 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <486ac73c-f409-4b56-8d54-dcd3a73d155e@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250416155327.GD17910@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 4/16/2025 11:53 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 02:42:12PM +0800, Mi, Dapeng wrote:
>
>> Just think twice, using bitmap to represent these extended registers indeed
>> wastes bits and is hard to extend, there could be much much more vector
>> registers if considering AMX.
> *Groan* so AMX should never have been register state :-(
>
>
>> Considering different arch/HW may support different number vector register,
>> like platform A supports 8 XMM registers and 8 YMM registers, but platform
>> B only supports 16 XMM registers, a better way to represent these vector
>> registers may add two fields, one is a bitmap which represents which kinds
>> of vector registers needs to be captures. The other field could be a u16
>> array which represents the corresponding register length of each kind of
>> vector register. It may look like this.
>>
>> #define PERF_SAMPLE_EXT_REGS_XMM BIT(0)
>> #define PERF_SAMPLE_EXT_REGS_YMM BIT(1)
>> #define PERF_SAMPLE_EXT_REGS_ZMM BIT(2)
>> __u32 sample_regs_intr_ext;
>> __u16 sample_regs_intr_ext_len[4];
>> __u32 sample_regs_user_ext;
>> __u16 sample_regs_user_ext_len[4];
>>
>>
>> Peter, how do you think this? Thanks.
> I'm not entirely sure I understand.
>
> How about something like:
>
> __u16 sample_simd_reg_words;
> __u64 sample_simd_reg_intr;
> __u64 sample_simd_reg_user;
If only considering x86 XMM/YMM/ZMM registers, it should be enough since
higher width vector registers always contain the lower width vector
registers on x86 platforms, but I'm not sure if we can have such assumption
for other archs. If not, then it's not enough since user may hope to sample
multiple vector registers with different width at the same time.
Furthermore, considering there could be more other registers like APX
registers need to be supported in the future, we'd better define a more
generic and easily extended interface. That's why I suggest to add a bitmap
like above"sample_regs_intr_ext" which can represent multiple kinds of
registers simultaneously.
>
> Then the simd_reg_words tell us how many (quad) words per register (8 for
> 512) and simd_reg_{intr,user} are a simple bitmap, one bit per actual
> simd reg.
>
> So then all of XMM would be:
>
> words = 2;
> intr = user = 0xFFFF;
>
> (16 regs, 128 wide)
>
> Whereas ZMM would be:
>
> words = 8
> intr = user = 0xFFFFFFFF;
>
> (32 regs, 512 wide)
>
>
> Would this be sufficient? Possibly we can split the words thing into two
> __u8, but does it make sense to ask for different vector width for
> intr and user ?
Yes, we need it. Users may need to sample interrupt registers and user
space registers simultaneously although it sounds a little bit weird.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-17 2:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-15 11:44 [Patch v3 00/22] Arch-PEBS and PMU supports for Clearwater Forest and Panther Lake Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 01/22] perf/x86/intel: Add Panther Lake support Dapeng Mi
2025-04-17 13:01 ` [tip: perf/core] " tip-bot2 for Kan Liang
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 02/22] perf/x86/intel: Add PMU support for Clearwater Forest Dapeng Mi
2025-04-17 13:01 ` [tip: perf/core] " tip-bot2 for Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 03/22] perf/x86/intel: Parse CPUID archPerfmonExt leaves for non-hybrid CPUs Dapeng Mi
2025-04-17 13:01 ` [tip: perf/core] " tip-bot2 for Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 04/22] perf/x86/intel: Decouple BTS initialization from PEBS initialization Dapeng Mi
2025-04-17 13:01 ` [tip: perf/core] " tip-bot2 for Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 05/22] perf/x86/intel: Rename x86_pmu.pebs to x86_pmu.ds_pebs Dapeng Mi
2025-04-17 13:01 ` [tip: perf/core] " tip-bot2 for Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 06/22] perf/x86/intel: Introduce pairs of PEBS static calls Dapeng Mi
2025-04-17 13:00 ` [tip: perf/core] " tip-bot2 for Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 07/22] perf/x86/intel: Initialize architectural PEBS Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 08/22] perf/x86/intel/ds: Factor out PEBS record processing code to functions Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 09/22] perf/x86/intel/ds: Factor out PEBS group " Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 10/22] perf/x86/intel: Process arch-PEBS records or record fragments Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 13:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-15 16:09 ` Liang, Kan
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 11/22] perf/x86/intel: Allocate arch-PEBS buffer and initialize PEBS_BASE MSR Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 13:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-16 0:59 ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-15 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-16 1:03 ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 12/22] perf/x86/intel: Update dyn_constranit base on PEBS event precise level Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 13:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-15 16:31 ` Liang, Kan
2025-04-16 1:46 ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-16 13:59 ` Liang, Kan
2025-04-17 1:15 ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-16 15:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-16 19:45 ` Liang, Kan
2025-04-16 19:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-22 22:50 ` Liang, Kan
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 13/22] perf/x86/intel: Setup PEBS data configuration and enable legacy groups Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 14/22] perf/x86/intel: Add counter group support for arch-PEBS Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 15/22] perf/x86/intel: Support SSP register capturing " Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 14:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-16 5:49 ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 16/22] perf/core: Support to capture higher width vector registers Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 14:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-16 6:42 ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-16 15:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-17 2:00 ` Mi, Dapeng [this message]
2025-04-22 3:05 ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 17/22] perf/x86/intel: Support arch-PEBS vector registers group capturing Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 18/22] perf tools: Support to show SSP register Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 19/22] perf tools: Enhance arch__intr/user_reg_mask() helpers Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 20/22] perf tools: Enhance sample_regs_user/intr to capture more registers Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 21/22] perf tools: Support to capture more vector registers (x86/Intel) Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 11:44 ` [Patch v3 22/22] perf tools/tests: Add vector registers PEBS sampling test Dapeng Mi
2025-04-15 15:21 ` [Patch v3 00/22] Arch-PEBS and PMU supports for Clearwater Forest and Panther Lake Liang, Kan
2025-04-16 7:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
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