From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: Spinlocks: Factor our GENERIC_LOCKBREAK in order to avoid spin with irqs disable
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:14:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4872792F.9080609@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080707154651.35d1004c@cuia.bos.redhat.com>
Rik van Riel wrote:
> Alternatively, the guest could tell the host which vcpus
> are next in line for a ticket spinlock, or a vcpu that gets
> scheduled but is not supposed to grab the lock yet can give
> some CPU time to the vcpu that should get the lock next.
>
Those are possible, but would either 1) require hypervisor changes,
and/or 2) changes no less extensive than the ones I had to make anyway.
Thomas's proposal was to modify the scheduler to try to avoiding
preempting vcpus while they're in kernel mode. That's nice because it
requires no guest changes, and seems at least somewhat successful at
mitigating the problem. But it can't completely solve the problem, and
you end up with a bunch of heuristics in the hypervisor to decide who to
preempt.
The other point, of course, is that ticket locks are massive overkill
for the problem they're trying to solve. It's one thing to introduce an
element of fairness into spinlocks, its another to impose strict FIFO
ordering. It would be enough to make the locks "polite" by preventing a
new lock-holder from taking the lock while its under contention.
Something like:
union lock {
unsigned short word;
struct { unsigned char lock, count; };
};
spin_lock: # ebx - lock pointer
movw $0x0001, %ax # add 1 to lock, 0 to count
xaddw %ax, (%ebx) # attempt to take lock and test user count
testw %ax,%ax
jnz slow
taken: ret
# slow path
slow: lock incb 1(%ebx) # inc count
1: rep;nop
cmpb $0,(%ebx)
jnz 1b # wait for unlocked
movb $1,%al # attempt to take lock (count already increased)
xchgb %al,(%ebx)
testb %al,%al
jnz 1b
lock decb 1(%ebx) # drop count
jmp taken
spin_unlock:
movb $0,(%ebx)
ret
The uncontended fastpath is similar to the pre-ticket locks, but it
refuses to take the lock if there are other waiters, even if the lock is
not currently held. This prevents the rapid lock-unlock cycle on one
CPU from starving another CPU, which I understand was the original
problem tickets locks were trying to solve.
But it also means that all the contended spinners get the lock in
whatever order the system decides to give it to them, rather than
imposing a strict order.
> I believe the IBM PPC64 people have done some work to implement
> just that.
>
Do you have any references?
J
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-07 20:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-06 19:26 Spinlocks waiting with interrupts disabled / preempt disabled Christoph Lameter
2008-05-07 7:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-07 17:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-07 17:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-07 18:49 ` Spinlocks: Factor our GENERIC_LOCKBREAK in order to avoid spin with irqs disable Christoph Lameter
2008-05-09 10:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-09 16:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-23 17:19 ` Petr Tesarik
2008-06-23 17:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-23 18:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-23 20:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-23 20:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-23 20:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-26 2:51 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-26 6:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-26 15:49 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-06-26 9:17 ` Petr Tesarik
2008-06-26 17:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-06-26 17:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-07 11:50 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-07 11:52 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-07 15:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-08 2:08 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-07 15:53 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-07 19:46 ` Rik van Riel
2008-07-07 20:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2008-07-08 2:07 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-08 5:57 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-08 8:41 ` Nick Piggin
2008-07-08 15:58 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-05-09 16:35 ` Spinlocks waiting with interrupts disabled / preempt disabled Olaf Weber
2008-05-09 17:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-09 18:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-09 18:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-09 20:01 ` Olaf Weber
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