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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/15] x86_64: Optimize percpu accesses
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:26:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48761C06.3020003@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4876194E.4080205@linux-foundation.org>

Christoph Lameter wrote:
> With the zero based approach you do not have a relative address anymore. We are basically creating a new absolute address space where we place variables starting at zero.
> 
> This means that we are fully independent from the placement of the percpu segment.
> 
> The loader may place the per cpu segment with the initialized variables anywhere. We just need to set GS correctly for the boot cpu. We always need to refer to the per cpu variables
> via GS or by adding the per cpu offset to the __per_cpu_offset[] (which is now badly named because it points directly to the start of the percpu segment for each processor).
> 
> So there is no 2G limitation on the distance between the code and the percpu segment anymore. The 2G limitation still exists for the *size* of the per cpu segment. If we go beyond 2G in defined per cpu variables then the per cpu addresses will wrap.

Okay, this is getting somewhat annoying.  Several people now have missed 
the point.

Noone has talked about the actual placement of the percpu segment data.

Using RIP-based references, however, are *cheaper* than using absolute 
references.  For RIP-based references to be valid, then the *offsets* 
need to be in the range [-2 GB + CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START ... 
CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START).  This is similar to the constraint on absolute 
refereces, where the *offsets* have to be in the range [-2 GB, 2 GB).

None of this affects the absolute positioning of the data.  The final 
address are determined by:

	fs_base + rip + offset
or
	fs_base + offset

... respectively.  fs_base is an arbitrary 64-bit number; rip (in the 
kernel) is in the range [-2 GB + CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START, 0), and offset 
is in the range [-2 GB, 2 GB).

(The high end of the rip range above is slightly too wide.)

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-10 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-09 16:51 [RFC 00/15] x86_64: Optimize percpu accesses Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 01/15] x86_64: Cleanup early setup_percpu references Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 02/15] x86_64: Fold pda into per cpu area Mike Travis
2008-07-09 22:02   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-13 17:54     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-14 14:24       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 03/15] x86_64: Reference zero-based percpu variables offset from gs Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 04/15] x86_64: Replace cpu_pda ops with percpu ops Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 05/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations with x86_xxx_percpu() Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 06/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_current_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 07/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_hardirq_64_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 08/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_mmu_context_64_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 09/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_percpu_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 10/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_smp_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 11/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_stackprotector_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 12/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_thread_info_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 13/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_topology_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 14/15] x86_64: Remove xxx_pda() operations Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 15/15] x86_64: Remove cpu_pda() macro Mike Travis
2008-07-09 17:19 ` [RFC 00/15] x86_64: Optimize percpu accesses H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 17:40   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 17:42     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 18:05       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 17:44   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:09     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 18:30       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 19:34       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 19:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:26           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-09 21:03         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 21:23         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 15:49     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-25 16:08       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 16:46         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-25 16:58           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 18:12             ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 17:27 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 17:39   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 17:51     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:14       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 18:22         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:31           ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 19:08             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:02     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 18:13       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 18:26         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:34           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 18:37             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 18:48             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:53               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 19:07                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 19:12                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 19:32                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 19:41                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 19:45                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 19:52                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 20:00                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:09                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:05                         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 19:44                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 19:48                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:27         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 18:46           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:22             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 20:35               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:53                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 21:03                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 21:16                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 21:10               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 23:20                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 18:31         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 18:00   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 19:05     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 19:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:55   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 21:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 20:05   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:15     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:11     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:18       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 20:33         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:42           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:48             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:06               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 21:16                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 21:20                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:25           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 21:36             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 21:41             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 22:22             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 22:32               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 23:36                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10  0:19                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10  0:24                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 14:14                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 14:26                         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-07-10 15:26                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 15:42                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 16:24                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 16:33                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 16:45                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:33                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:42                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:53                                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:55                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 20:52                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 20:58                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 21:03                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11  0:55                                                 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 21:05                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 21:22                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 21:29                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11  0:12                                                   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-11  0:14                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11  0:58                                                       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-11  1:41                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11 15:37                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-11  0:42                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-11 15:36                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:53                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 17:26                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 17:38                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 19:11                                     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 19:12                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 17:46                                   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 17:51                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 19:09                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 19:18                                       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 19:32                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 23:37                                           ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 20:17                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 20:24                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-10 21:33                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-11  1:39                                           ` Mike Travis
2008-07-11  2:57                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10  0:23                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:35         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:39       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 20:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:50           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:12             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 21:26               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:37                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 22:10               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 22:23                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 23:54                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 16:22                     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 16:25                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 16:35                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 16:39                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 16:47                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:21                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:31                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:48                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 18:00                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 17:20                         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 17:07                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:12                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:25                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:34                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:41                         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 18:01                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 20:51                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 20:58                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 21:07                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 21:11                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11 15:32                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-11 16:07                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11 16:57                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-11 17:10                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 21:26                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 18:48                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 18:54                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 19:18                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 19:56                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 20:22                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 20:54                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-11  6:59                                 ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-10 20:25                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 17:57                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 18:08                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:46         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:14   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 20:33     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 21:01       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 21:39   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 21:47     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:55     ` Eric W. Biederman

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