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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/15] x86_64: Optimize percpu accesses
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:42:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48762DD2.5090802@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48762A3B.5050104@linux-foundation.org>

Christoph Lameter wrote:
> 
> Well the zero based results in this becoming always
> 
> 	gs_base + absolute address in per cpu segment

You can do either way.  For RIP-based, you have to worry about the 
possible range for the RIP register when referencing.  Currently, even 
for "make allyesconfig" the per cpu segment is a lot smaller than the 
minimum value for CONFIG_PHYSICAL_START (2 MB), so there is no issue, 
but there is a distinct lack of wiggle room, which can be resolved 
either by using negative offsets, or by moving the kernel text area up a 
bit from -2 GB.

> Why are RIP based references cheaper? The offset to the per cpu segment is certainly more than what can be fit into 16 bits.

Where are you getting 16 bits from?!?!  *There are no 16-bit offsets in 
64-bit mode, period, full stop.*

RIP-based references are cheaper because the x86-64 architects chose to 
optimize RIP-based references over absolute references.  Therefore 
RIP-based references are encodable with only a MODR/M byte, whereas 
absolute references require a SIB byte as well -- longer instruction, 
possibly a less optimized path through the CPU, and *definitely* 
something that gets exercised less in the linker.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-10 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-09 16:51 [RFC 00/15] x86_64: Optimize percpu accesses Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 01/15] x86_64: Cleanup early setup_percpu references Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 02/15] x86_64: Fold pda into per cpu area Mike Travis
2008-07-09 22:02   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-13 17:54     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-14 14:24       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 03/15] x86_64: Reference zero-based percpu variables offset from gs Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 04/15] x86_64: Replace cpu_pda ops with percpu ops Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 05/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations with x86_xxx_percpu() Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 06/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_current_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 07/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_hardirq_64_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 08/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_mmu_context_64_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 09/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_percpu_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 10/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_smp_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 11/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_stackprotector_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 12/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_thread_info_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 13/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_topology_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 14/15] x86_64: Remove xxx_pda() operations Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 15/15] x86_64: Remove cpu_pda() macro Mike Travis
2008-07-09 17:19 ` [RFC 00/15] x86_64: Optimize percpu accesses H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 17:40   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 17:42     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 18:05       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 17:44   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:09     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 18:30       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 19:34       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 19:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:26           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-09 21:03         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 21:23         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 15:49     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-25 16:08       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 16:46         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-25 16:58           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 18:12             ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 17:27 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 17:39   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 17:51     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:14       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 18:22         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:31           ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 19:08             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:02     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 18:13       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 18:26         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:34           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 18:37             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 18:48             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:53               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 19:07                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 19:12                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 19:32                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 19:41                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 19:45                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 19:52                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 20:00                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:09                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:05                         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 19:44                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 19:48                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:27         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 18:46           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:22             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 20:35               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:53                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 21:03                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 21:16                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 21:10               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 23:20                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 18:31         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 18:00   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 19:05     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 19:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:55   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 21:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 20:05   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:15     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:11     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:18       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 20:33         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:42           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:48             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:06               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 21:16                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 21:20                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:25           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 21:36             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 21:41             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 22:22             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 22:32               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 23:36                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10  0:19                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10  0:24                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 14:14                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 14:26                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 15:26                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 15:42                             ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-07-10 16:24                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 16:33                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 16:45                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:33                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:42                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:53                                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:55                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 20:52                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 20:58                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 21:03                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11  0:55                                                 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 21:05                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 21:22                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 21:29                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11  0:12                                                   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-11  0:14                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11  0:58                                                       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-11  1:41                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11 15:37                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-11  0:42                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-11 15:36                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:53                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 17:26                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 17:38                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 19:11                                     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 19:12                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 17:46                                   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 17:51                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 19:09                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 19:18                                       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 19:32                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 23:37                                           ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 20:17                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 20:24                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-10 21:33                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-11  1:39                                           ` Mike Travis
2008-07-11  2:57                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10  0:23                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:35         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:39       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 20:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:50           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:12             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 21:26               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:37                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 22:10               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 22:23                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 23:54                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 16:22                     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 16:25                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 16:35                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 16:39                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 16:47                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:21                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:31                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:48                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 18:00                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 17:20                         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 17:07                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:12                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:25                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:34                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:41                         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 18:01                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 20:51                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 20:58                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 21:07                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 21:11                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11 15:32                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-11 16:07                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11 16:57                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-11 17:10                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 21:26                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 18:48                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 18:54                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 19:18                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 19:56                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 20:22                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 20:54                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-11  6:59                                 ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-10 20:25                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 17:57                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 18:08                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:46         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:14   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 20:33     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 21:01       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 21:39   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 21:47     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:55     ` Eric W. Biederman

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