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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/15] x86_64: Optimize percpu accesses
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:21:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48764530.7000909@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48763D1C.8040206@linux-foundation.org>

Christoph Lameter wrote:
> H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>   
>> Christoph Lameter wrote:
>>     
>>> H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> No, since the *addresses* can be arbitrary.  The current issue is about
>>>> *offsets.*
>>>>         
>>> Well those are intimately connected.
>>>       
>> Not really, since gs_base is an arbitrary 64-bit pointer.
>>     
>
> The current scheme ties the offsets to kernel code addresses.
>   

This is getting very frustrating.  We've been going around and around on 
this point, what, 5 or 6 times at least.

The base address of the percpu area and the offsets from that base are 
completely independent values.

The offset is limited to 2G.  The 2G limit applies regardless of how you 
compute your effective address.  It doesn't matter if its absolute.  It 
doesn't matter if it's rip-relative.  It doesn't matter if it's 
zero-based.  Small absolute addresses generate exactly the same form as 
large absolute addresses.  There is no 8-bit or 16-bit address mode.

The base is arbitrary.  It can be any canonical address at all.  It has 
no effect on how you compute your offset.

The addressing modes:

    * ABS
    * off(%rip)

Are exactly equivalent in what offsets they can generate, so long as *at 
link time* the percpu *symbols* are within 2G of the code addressing 
them.  *After* the addressing mode has generated an effective address 
(by whatever means it likes), the %gs: override applies the segment 
base, which can therefore offset the effective address to anywhere at all.

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-10 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-09 16:51 [RFC 00/15] x86_64: Optimize percpu accesses Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 01/15] x86_64: Cleanup early setup_percpu references Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 02/15] x86_64: Fold pda into per cpu area Mike Travis
2008-07-09 22:02   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-13 17:54     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-14 14:24       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 03/15] x86_64: Reference zero-based percpu variables offset from gs Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 04/15] x86_64: Replace cpu_pda ops with percpu ops Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 05/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations with x86_xxx_percpu() Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 06/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_current_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 07/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_hardirq_64_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 08/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_mmu_context_64_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 09/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_percpu_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 10/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_smp_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 11/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_stackprotector_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 12/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_thread_info_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 13/15] x86_64: Replace xxx_pda() operations in include_asm-x86_topology_h Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 14/15] x86_64: Remove xxx_pda() operations Mike Travis
2008-07-09 16:51 ` [RFC 15/15] x86_64: Remove cpu_pda() macro Mike Travis
2008-07-09 17:19 ` [RFC 00/15] x86_64: Optimize percpu accesses H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 17:40   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 17:42     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 18:05       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 17:44   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:09     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 18:30       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 19:34       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 19:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:26           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-09 21:03         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 21:23         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 15:49     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-25 16:08       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 16:46         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-25 16:58           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-25 18:12             ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 17:27 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 17:39   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 17:51     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:14       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 18:22         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:31           ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 19:08             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:02     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 18:13       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 18:26         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:34           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 18:37             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 18:48             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:53               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 19:07                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 19:12                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 19:32                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 19:41                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 19:45                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 19:52                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 20:00                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:09                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:05                         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 19:44                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 19:48                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 18:27         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 18:46           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:22             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 20:35               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:53                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 21:03                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 21:16                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 21:10               ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 23:20                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 18:31         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 18:00   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 19:05     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 19:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:55   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 21:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 20:05   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:15     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 20:11     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:18       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 20:33         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:42           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:48             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:06               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 21:16                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 21:20                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:25           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-09 21:36             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 21:41             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 22:22             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 22:32               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 23:36                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10  0:19                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10  0:24                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 14:14                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 14:26                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 15:26                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 15:42                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 16:24                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 16:33                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 16:45                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:33                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:42                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:53                                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:55                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 20:52                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 20:58                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 21:03                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11  0:55                                                 ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 21:05                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 21:22                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 21:29                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11  0:12                                                   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-11  0:14                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11  0:58                                                       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-11  1:41                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11 15:37                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-11  0:42                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-11 15:36                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:53                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 17:26                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 17:38                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 19:11                                     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 19:12                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 17:46                                   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 17:51                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 19:09                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 19:18                                       ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 19:32                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 23:37                                           ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 20:17                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 20:24                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-10 21:33                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-11  1:39                                           ` Mike Travis
2008-07-11  2:57                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10  0:23                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:35         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:39       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 20:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:50           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:12             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 21:26               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:37                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 22:10               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 22:23                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 23:54                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 16:22                     ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 16:25                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 16:35                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 16:39                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 16:47                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:21                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2008-07-10 17:31                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:48                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 18:00                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 17:20                         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 17:07                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:12                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:25                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 17:34                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 17:41                         ` Mike Travis
2008-07-10 18:01                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 20:51                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 20:58                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 21:07                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-10 21:11                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11 15:32                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-07-11 16:07                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-11 16:57                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-11 17:10                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 21:26                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 18:48                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 18:54                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 19:18                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 19:56                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-10 20:22                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 20:54                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-11  6:59                                 ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-10 20:25                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-10 17:57                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-10 18:08                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-09 20:46         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 20:14   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 20:33     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-09 21:01       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-09 21:39   ` Mike Travis
2008-07-09 21:47     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-09 21:55     ` Eric W. Biederman

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