From: Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] stopmachine: add stopmachine_timeout
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:05:31 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <487D738B.4070104@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200807151750.12131.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Hi Rusty,
Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 July 2008 11:11:34 Hidetoshi Seto wrote:
>> However we need to be careful that the stuck CPU can restart unexpectedly.
>
> OK, if you are worried about that race, I think we can still fix it...
After having a relaxing day, once I said:
"I like your idea that if we did not want to do something on the stuck CPU
then treat the CPU as stopped."
but now I noticed that the stuck CPU can harm what we want to do if it is
not real stuck... ex. busy loop in a subsystem, and we want to touch the
core of the subsystem exclusively.
So "force progress" is not safe, on some rare case. I'd like to make this
timeout feature as a safe-net, therefore we should return error without
taking a risk even it would be small, I think.
> Hmm, there's still the vague possibility that the thread doesn't schedule
> until we start a new stop_machine (and clear prepared_cpus). We could simply
> loop in the main thread if any threads are alive, before freeing them (inside
> the lock). A counter and notifier is the other way, but it seems like
> overkill for a very unlikely event.
I suppose my current implementation, returning control to user immediately,
is better than looping in main thread. In my implementation, num_threads is
initialized to num_online_cpus() by main thread, and decremented 1 by 1
each child thread. If time out happen, main thread will return without
waiting completion but set state STOPMACHINE_EXIT. Then child threads are now
detached from usual procedure, so they exit soon without do any work.
At the beginning of new stop_machine, we can check the num_threads to know
whether there are remaining child threads. If there are, something is wrong
since the system cannot run MAX_PRIO RT thread, not binded to typical cpu now.
So we can return error in such case, assuming that the new stop_machine will
fail in same way.
Anyway, I also think we can better thing here, but we don't need to do all
at once. Making steps by incremental patches would be nice, I think.
Thanks,
H.Seto
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-16 4:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-14 7:52 [PATCH] stopmachine: add stopmachine_timeout Hidetoshi Seto
2008-07-14 8:19 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2008-07-14 10:43 ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-15 1:11 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2008-07-15 7:50 ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-16 4:05 ` Hidetoshi Seto [this message]
2008-07-20 9:45 ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-22 3:28 ` [PATCH] stopmachine: allow force progress on timeout Hidetoshi Seto
2008-07-14 11:51 ` [PATCH] stopmachine: add stopmachine_timeout Christian Borntraeger
2008-07-14 12:34 ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-14 18:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-14 21:20 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-07-15 1:14 ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-15 2:24 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2008-07-15 2:37 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15 2:24 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-15 6:09 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-07-15 8:09 ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-15 8:39 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-07-15 8:51 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-16 9:15 ` Christian Borntraeger
2008-07-16 4:27 ` [PATCH] stopmachine: add stopmachine_timeout v2 Hidetoshi Seto
2008-07-16 6:23 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-16 6:35 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2008-07-16 6:51 ` [PATCH] stopmachine: add stopmachine_timeout v3 Hidetoshi Seto
2008-07-16 7:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-16 8:12 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2008-07-16 10:11 ` [PATCH] stopmachine: add stopmachine_timeout v2 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-17 3:40 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2008-07-17 5:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-07-18 4:18 ` Rusty Russell
2008-07-17 6:12 ` [PATCH] stopmachine: add stopmachine_timeout v4 Hidetoshi Seto
2008-07-17 7:09 ` Max Krasnyansky
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