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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@gmail.com>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@kernel.org>,
	Ivan Seskar <Seskar@winlab.rutgers.edu>,
	jfm3 <jfm3@winlab.rutgers.edu>, Sujith <m.sujith@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bug on 2.6.26 - x86 VIA Nehemiah CentaurHauls processor cannot boot
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:33:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <488627E2.2060101@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48862526.7060704@zytor.com>

H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for taking a  look at this. So well, it would be a
>>> misconfiguration bug by the distribution then to try to support a
>>> generic 686 kernel wihtout GENERIC then.
>>
>> Well, it may be intentional -- some distros simply exclude support for 
>> the lower-volume VIA processors, since that might imply building their 
>> "generic 686 kernel" sans CMOV and some other instructions, and 
>> changing the compiler's instruction scheduling to something less 
>> optimal for the majority.  :/
>>
> 
> X86_GENERIC shouldn't disable CMOV?

I said "generic 686 kernel" not a specific Kconfig option (for reasons 
stated below), which is a bit different.


> We're only referring specifically to the family == 6 VIA processors here.

To be specific, I was merely saying that VIA processors where 
c->x86_model==6 may lack CMOV.

I have not kept track of what current Kconfig options will set, but in 
the past it was quite easy to build a "generic 686 kernel" that required 
CMOV and thus excluded these VIA processors.

Distros in the past often wound up intentionally -not- supporting some 
of these VIA processors, because they did not want to create a non-CMOV 
kernel.  (This policy obviously excluded older x86 as well)

If these things have been addressed recently (< 12-18 months) then all good.

	Jeff





  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-22 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-21 13:14 Bug on 2.6.26 - x86 VIA Nehemiah CentaurHauls processor cannot boot Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-07-21 13:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-21 14:01   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-07-21 23:24     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22  4:47       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-07-22 13:10         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22 17:10         ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-22 18:21           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22 18:33             ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2008-07-22 18:41               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22 23:28                 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-23  0:31                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22 13:14       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-22 13:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22 13:46           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-22 13:54             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-26 18:31           ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-26 18:35             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-26 18:44               ` Andi Kleen

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