From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@gmail.com>,
linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@kernel.org>,
Ivan Seskar <Seskar@winlab.rutgers.edu>,
jfm3 <jfm3@winlab.rutgers.edu>, Sujith <m.sujith@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bug on 2.6.26 - x86 VIA Nehemiah CentaurHauls processor cannot boot
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:33:06 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <488627E2.2060101@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48862526.7060704@zytor.com>
H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for taking a look at this. So well, it would be a
>>> misconfiguration bug by the distribution then to try to support a
>>> generic 686 kernel wihtout GENERIC then.
>>
>> Well, it may be intentional -- some distros simply exclude support for
>> the lower-volume VIA processors, since that might imply building their
>> "generic 686 kernel" sans CMOV and some other instructions, and
>> changing the compiler's instruction scheduling to something less
>> optimal for the majority. :/
>>
>
> X86_GENERIC shouldn't disable CMOV?
I said "generic 686 kernel" not a specific Kconfig option (for reasons
stated below), which is a bit different.
> We're only referring specifically to the family == 6 VIA processors here.
To be specific, I was merely saying that VIA processors where
c->x86_model==6 may lack CMOV.
I have not kept track of what current Kconfig options will set, but in
the past it was quite easy to build a "generic 686 kernel" that required
CMOV and thus excluded these VIA processors.
Distros in the past often wound up intentionally -not- supporting some
of these VIA processors, because they did not want to create a non-CMOV
kernel. (This policy obviously excluded older x86 as well)
If these things have been addressed recently (< 12-18 months) then all good.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-22 18:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-21 13:14 Bug on 2.6.26 - x86 VIA Nehemiah CentaurHauls processor cannot boot Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-07-21 13:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-21 14:01 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-07-21 23:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22 4:47 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-07-22 13:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22 17:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-22 18:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22 18:33 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2008-07-22 18:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22 23:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-07-23 0:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22 13:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-22 13:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-22 13:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-22 13:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-26 18:31 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-26 18:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-26 18:44 ` Andi Kleen
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