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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: sukadev@us.ibm.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	serue@us.ibm.com, matthltc@us.ibm.com,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Subject: Per-instance devpts
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:12:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48935205.3090807@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1208027215.28187.17.camel@x61.ebiederm.org>

Since the issue of PTY namespaces came up (and was rejected) back in 
April, I have thought a little bit about changing ptys to be tied 
directly into a devpts instance.  devpts would then be a "normal" 
filesystem, which can be mounted multiple times (or not at all).  pty's 
would then become private to a devpts instance.

This is what it would appear would have to change, and I'd like to get 
people's feeing for the user-space impact:

1. /dev/ptmx would have to change to a symlink, ptmx -> pts/ptmx.
2. Permissions on /dev/ptmx would not be persistent, and would have to
    be set via devpts mount options (unless they're 0666 root.tty, which
    would presumably be the default.)
3. The /proc/sys/kernel/pty limit would be global; a per-filesystem
    limit could be added on top or instead (presumably via a filesystem
    mount options.)

I worry #1 would have substantial user-space impact, but I don't see a 
way around it, since there would be no obvious way to associate 
/dev/ptmx with a filesystem.

	-hpa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-01 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-12 17:29 [PATCH 0/4] Helper patches for PTY namespaces sukadev
2008-04-12 17:32 ` [PATCH 1/4]: Propagate error code from devpts_pty_new sukadev
2008-04-12 17:32 ` [PATCH 2/4]: Factor out PTY index allocation sukadev
2008-04-12 17:33 ` [PATCH 3/4]: Move devpts globals into init_pts_ns sukadev
2008-04-12 17:34 ` [PATCH 4/4]: Enable multiple mounts of /dev/pts sukadev
2008-04-12 18:09 ` [PATCH 0/4] Helper patches for PTY namespaces H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-12 18:35 ` Al Viro
2008-04-12 18:54   ` Multiple instances of devpts H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-12 19:15     ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-12 19:24       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-12 19:30         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-12 19:06 ` [PATCH 0/4] Helper patches for PTY namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2008-04-13  0:59   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-01 18:12   ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-08-01 19:23     ` Per-instance devpts Dave Hansen
2008-08-01 19:35       ` Al Viro
2008-08-01 19:37       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]     ` <f73f7ab80808020004j15b0d0e5x5fa911242641b34d@mail.gmail.com>
2008-08-02  7:06       ` Kyle Moffett
2008-08-02 15:33         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-02  8:54     ` Bastian Blank
2008-08-03  5:08     ` sukadev
2008-08-03 11:31       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-03 12:04       ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 17:46         ` sukadev
2008-08-03 17:54           ` Alan Cox

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