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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	ksummit-2008-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ide <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel Summit request for Discussion of future of ATA (libata) and IDE
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:37:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <489768A1.8000501@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48976168.3020804@shaw.ca>

Robert Hancock wrote:
> Alan Cox wrote:
>>> * There are still corner case in libata core - PIO is dead slow
>>> compared to drivers/ide/,
>>
>> There are two there - libata keeps IRQs blocked for longer in PIO mode as
>> well which is a factor for realtime that needs looking at, as well as
>> using 16bit not 32bit I/O for most devices (which is trivial to fix). The
>> IRQ masking stuff is more complex and old IDE handles it far better for
>> PIO on non shared IRQ interfaces. That is actually probably the most
>> complicated thing to address of the stuff you'd want to do if you were
>> going to kill off old IDE.
> 
> I was looking into the 32-bit PIO issue a bit yesterday. It looks like 
> some of the VLB libata drivers are doing this internally already, so it 
> shouldn't be hard to do this in the core. Only question is how we know 
> generically if the controller can do it or not? It looks like in old 
> IDE, a few controllers explicitly disable it, but it appears that it 
> doesn't default to on for any controller, so it's possible there are 
> others on which it doesn't work. Presumably anything on an actual 16-bit 
> bus (ISA, LPC, etc.) wouldn't like it, to start with.

FWIW there is already a patch from Willy Terreau (sp?) to add 32-bit I/O.

I queued it for "later" because it had some issues that Alan pointed 
out, IIRC.  I definitely want to push it in, though.

	Jeff




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-04 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.OGeO7gZvBG4obEzRbVltjSebgTQ@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.KtvYE2B2yrJqUleolhtMPN9ljAQ@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.AqEKTvguYFAzDFHy/We/8MpOqmo@ifi.uio.no>
2008-08-04 20:07     ` Kernel Summit request for Discussion of future of ATA (libata) and IDE Robert Hancock
2008-08-04 19:55       ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 21:17         ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-04 21:06           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 21:48             ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-06  0:21             ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-06  0:44               ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-06  2:30                 ` Robert Hancock
2008-08-06 11:27                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-06 13:04                   ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] " Tejun Heo
2008-08-06  8:51               ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 21:55         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-04 21:43           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 22:45             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-04 22:52               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-06 11:17                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2008-08-04 22:12         ` Mark Lord
2008-08-04 22:00           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-04 20:37       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2008-08-04 23:49         ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] " Tejun Heo
2008-08-03 15:57 James Bottomley
2008-08-03 16:39 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 17:10   ` James Bottomley
2008-08-03 18:45     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 19:21       ` James Bottomley
2008-08-03 19:17         ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 20:19           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-08-03 22:07             ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 17:32   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-08-03 17:45     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-08-03 17:57       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-08-04  5:35   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-08-04 13:16   ` Kumar Gala
2008-08-04 13:07     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 20:09 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-08-03 22:01   ` Alan Cox
2008-08-03 23:10 ` Jeff Garzik

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