From: Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Kyle Moffett <kyle@moffetthome.net>, Russ Anderson <rja@sgi.com>,
mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: x86 BIOS interface for partitioning and system serial number on SGI UV
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:56:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48987829.1060002@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4898745F.2070902@zytor.com>
H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Mike Travis wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kyle,
>>
>> As I'm very new to this development arena, could you explain a bit more
>> on why this is considered "bad manners"?
>>
>> I'm not speaking of any particular change, but there are some
>> realities in
>> bringing a new product to market that depends heavily on new "features"
>> being accepted into a specific kernel release. I certainly do not want
>> to "taint" any kernel code (and I'm always amazed at the dedication of
>> so many individuals to insure this doesn't happen), but the line between
>> acceptability (and not) seems to waver all over the place... ;-)
>>
>
> It's because it's your responsibility to get the code in by whenever you
> need it to, but trying to push unfinished code with the motivation "we
> need it in by <release>" violates the development model *and* is just
> plain rude.
>
> This comes down to the old saying "lack of planning on your part does
> not constitute an emergency on my part."
>
> In other words, if you want to push code in by a specific release, the
> code needs to be *done* and properly submitted. Submitting code that
> has a big "real code goes here" comment, is ridiculous.
>
> Unfortunately we have seen a *lot* of that from several people at SGI
> over the last year.
>
> -hpa
Hi Peter,
Ok, thanks, I do see your point (very clearly), as I prepare yet another
"we really, really need this" patch... ;-)
[ok, it's only a led driver and the world won't stop if it doesn't show up
in the kernel... ;-)]
Cheers,
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-05 15:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-31 19:57 x86 BIOS interface for partitioning and system serial number on SGI UV Russ Anderson
2008-08-01 17:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-04 22:19 ` Russ Anderson
2008-08-05 0:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-05 0:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-05 3:54 ` Greg KH
2008-08-05 16:32 ` Russ Anderson
2008-08-05 16:53 ` Greg KH
2008-08-05 19:22 ` Russ Anderson
2008-08-05 23:06 ` Russ Anderson
2008-08-05 5:21 ` Kyle Moffett
2008-08-05 14:35 ` Mike Travis
2008-08-05 15:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-05 15:56 ` Mike Travis [this message]
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2008-08-05 17:24 H. Peter Anvin
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