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From: Jay Lan <jlan@sgi.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>, Bernhard Walle <bwalle@suse.de>,
	Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:47:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <489B5149.4030600@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <489B48BF.3060609@linux-foundation.org>

Christoph Lameter wrote:
> Stefan Richter wrote:
>> Christoph Lameter wrote:
>>> The competing implementation is kdb not kgdb. kgdb is just a stub for
>>> remote
>>> debugging using gdb. kdb is an in-kernel debugger like the one
>>> proposed here.
>> Is there work underway to get kdb merged?  (I'm just asking because I
>> don't know; I personally don't need kdb nor mdb.)
> 
> KDB still exists in patches but the merge effort was given up when Linus
> stated that he did not want a kernel debugger. No problem to start merge
> attempts again AFAICT. Jay?

To merge KDB or any other RAS tools, you need to deal with kdump. Kdump
hijack panic() before the die calling chain. For KDB or a RAS tool to
work, an infrastructure such as the "add new notifier function" by
Takenori Nagano should be in place.

His last attempt fell short, in my opinion, was partly due to his
"[PATCH 3/3] Move crash_kexec() into  panic_notifier" did not do what it
meant to do: to fit kexec/kdump into the new infrastructure. That is
not fatal; it can be fixed to make it right. If community is interested
in getting a kernel debugger to the kernel, we can continue Takenori's
work. Once the infrastructure is accepted, then merging KDB or any other
kernel debugger will make sense.

Regards,
 - jay


> 


  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-07 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-03 17:22 [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger jmerkey
     [not found] ` <17494.166.70.238.46.1217784156.squirrel@webmail.wolfmountaingroup.com >
2008-08-03 19:36   ` jmerkey
2008-08-03 20:00     ` Rene Herman
2008-08-04  0:14     ` Josh Boyer
2008-08-04  2:19       ` jmerkey
2008-08-04 13:41         ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-04 14:33           ` jmerkey
2008-08-05  9:41             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-05 15:02               ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 15:33                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-05 15:19                   ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 15:45                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-05 15:32                       ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 16:38                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-05 16:45                           ` jmerkey
2008-08-06 19:47                           ` Rene Herman
2008-08-05 16:04                     ` Chris Friesen
2008-08-05 16:39                       ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 20:43                         ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-08-07 21:02                           ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 21:04                             ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 17:21                     ` Paul Mundt
2008-08-05 17:10                       ` jmerkey
2008-08-06  3:08                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-06  5:50                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-07 17:45                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-07 17:53                         ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 18:08                         ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-07 19:10                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-07 19:47                             ` Jay Lan [this message]
2008-08-07 19:34                               ` jmerkey
2008-08-08  1:26                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-07 20:06                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-07 20:07                                 ` Bernhard Walle
2008-08-07 20:09                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-07 20:11                                     ` Bernhard Walle
2008-08-07 22:28                                 ` Keith Owens
2008-08-08  1:15                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-08  2:29                                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-08 12:08                                       ` Cliff Wickman
2008-08-08 12:20                                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-08 13:19                                           ` jmerkey
2008-08-08 15:06                                           ` Cliff Wickman
2008-08-08 13:29                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-08 14:50                                         ` Cliff Wickman
2008-08-08 16:57                                           ` Jay Lan
2008-08-11 12:56                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-08 18:03                                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 13:02                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-11 13:11                                             ` jmerkey
2008-08-11 13:50                                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 16:16                                                 ` jmerkey
2008-08-18  9:12                                             ` Takenori Nagano
2008-08-08  8:40                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-06 13:11                     ` Bill Davidsen
2008-08-06 13:37                       ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-06 13:54                       ` Olivier Galibert
2008-08-06 13:45                         ` jmerkey
2008-08-06 14:16                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-06 17:21                     ` Jason Wessel
2008-08-06 18:57                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-07 12:45                         ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 15:17                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-07 16:07                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-07 15:52                             ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 17:04                               ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-08  0:28                           ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-11 10:36 ` jidong xiao

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