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From: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [revert] mysql+oltp regression
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:19:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48A03C6E.60303@novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080811131400.GA909@elte.hu>

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Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> wrote:
>
>   
>>>> Speaking of this: Another patch I submitted to you Ingo (had to do 
>>>> with updating the load_weight inside task_setprio) seems to also 
>>>> have this phenomenon: e.g. its technically correct but further 
>>>> testing has revealed negative repercussions elsewhere.  So please 
>>>> ignore that patch (or revert if you already pulled in, but I don't 
>>>> think you have).  Ill try to look into this issue as well.
>>>>         
>>> ok, under which thread/subject is that? Not queued in tip/sched/* 
>>> yet, correct?
>>>   
>>>       
>> Here is the original thread:
>>
>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/7/3/416
>>
>> I do not believe you have queued it anywhere (public anyway) yet.
>>
>> Note I have already invalidated 1/2, and now I am retracting 2/2 as 
>> well.  (1/2 is actually a bogus patch, 2/2 is "technically correct" 
>> but causes ripples in the load balancer that need to be sorted out 
>> first.
>>     
>
> ok, thanks. I'm curious, what are those ripple effects? Stability or 
> performance?
>   

Performance.  I found it while working on my pi series (which fyi I 
should have a v2 refresh for soon, probably today...i am hoping to get 
some review feedback from you on that as well, time permitting of course ;).

Basically the behavior I was observing was that kernel builds via distcc 
would cluster all the cc1 jobs on a single core.  At first I thought my 
pi-series was screwed up, but then I realized I had applied the patch 
referenced above earlier in my development tree, and removing it allowed 
pi to work fine.

I found the problem with in once boot cycle with ftrace (thanks 
Steve!).  Basically newidle balancing was always returning "no 
imbalance" even though I had 32 cc1 threads on 1 core, and 3 idle 
cores.  Clearly not correct!  So I think that by adjusting the load up, 
we throw off the hysteresis built into the load averages and cause the 
system to incorrectly think it's balanced. TBD.

-Greg


> 	Ingo
>   



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  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-11 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-11 11:32 [revert] mysql+oltp regression Mike Galbraith
2008-08-11 11:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 12:27   ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-11 12:48     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 12:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 13:03       ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-11 13:14         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 13:19           ` Gregory Haskins [this message]
2008-08-11 13:27             ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-11 13:31               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-11 13:29             ` Ingo Molnar

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