From: David Collier-Brown <davecb@sun.com>
To: righi.andrea@gmail.com
Cc: Hirokazu Takahashi <taka@valinux.co.jp>,
baramsori72@gmail.com, balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
Satoshi UCHIDA <s-uchida@ap.jp.nec.com>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
agk@sourceware.org, dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com, ngupta@google.com
Subject: Re: RFC: I/O bandwidth controller
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:18:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48A41475.4070108@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48A18854.9020000@gmail.com>
Andrea Righi wrote:
> A more complicated issue is how to evaluate the total IO bandwidth of a
> generic device. We can use some kind of averaging/prediction, but
> basically it would be inaccurate due to the mechanic of disks (head
> seeks, but also caching, buffering mechanisms implemented directly into
> the device, etc.). It's a hard problem. And the same problem exists also
> for proportional bandwidth as well, in terms of IO rate predictability I
> mean.
Actually it's a little-known easy problem.
The capacity planning community does it all the time, but then describes
it in terms that are only interesting (intelligible?) to an enthusiastic
amateur mathematician (;-))
One finds the point, called N*, at which the throughput flattens
out and and the response time starts to grow without bounds, and
calls that level the maximum.
In practice, one does an easier variant. One sets a response-time
limit and throttles *everyone* proportionally when th disk starts to
regularly degrade beyond the limit. Interestingly, because we're
slowing the application to prevent slowing the disks, the value we
pick needn't be terribly precise. It also doesn't require any pre-
knowledge about the disks.
Send me a note if you want to discuss this in more detail.
--dave
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-14 15:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-04 8:51 [PATCH 0/7] I/O bandwidth controller and BIO tracking Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-04 8:52 ` [PATCH 1/7] dm-ioband: Patch of device-mapper driver Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-04 8:52 ` [PATCH 2/7] dm-ioband: Documentation of design overview, installation, command reference and examples Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-04 8:57 ` [PATCH 3/7] bio-cgroup: Introduction Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-04 8:57 ` [PATCH 4/7] bio-cgroup: Split the cgroup memory subsystem into two parts Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-04 8:59 ` [PATCH 5/7] bio-cgroup: Remove a lot of ifdefs Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-04 9:00 ` [PATCH 6/7] bio-cgroup: Implement the bio-cgroup Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-04 9:01 ` [PATCH 7/7] bio-cgroup: Add a cgroup support to dm-ioband Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-08 7:10 ` [PATCH 6/7] bio-cgroup: Implement the bio-cgroup Takuya Yoshikawa
2008-08-08 8:30 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-08 9:42 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2008-08-08 11:41 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-05 10:25 ` [PATCH 4/7] bio-cgroup: Split the cgroup memory subsystem into two parts Andrea Righi
2008-08-05 10:35 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-06 7:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-08-06 11:43 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-06 13:45 ` kamezawa.hiroyu
2008-08-07 7:25 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-07 8:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-08-07 8:45 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-04 17:20 ` Too many I/O controller patches Dave Hansen
2008-08-04 18:22 ` Andrea Righi
2008-08-04 19:02 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-04 20:44 ` Andrea Righi
2008-08-04 20:50 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-05 6:28 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-05 5:55 ` Paul Menage
2008-08-05 6:03 ` Balbir Singh
2008-08-05 9:27 ` Andrea Righi
2008-08-05 16:25 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-05 6:16 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-05 9:31 ` Andrea Righi
2008-08-05 10:01 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-05 2:50 ` Satoshi UCHIDA
2008-08-05 9:28 ` Andrea Righi
2008-08-05 13:17 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-05 16:20 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-06 2:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-08-06 3:30 ` Balbir Singh
2008-08-06 6:48 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-05 12:01 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-04 18:34 ` Balbir Singh
2008-08-04 20:42 ` Andrea Righi
2008-08-06 1:13 ` RFC: I/O bandwidth controller (was Re: Too many I/O controller patches) Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-06 6:18 ` RFC: I/O bandwidth controller Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-06 6:41 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-06 15:48 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-07 4:38 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-06 16:42 ` RFC: I/O bandwidth controller (was Re: Too many I/O controller patches) Balbir Singh
2008-08-06 18:00 ` Dave Hansen
2008-08-07 2:44 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-07 3:01 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-08 11:39 ` RFC: I/O bandwidth controller Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-12 5:35 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-06 19:37 ` RFC: I/O bandwidth controller (was Re: Too many I/O controller patches) Naveen Gupta
2008-08-07 8:30 ` RFC: I/O bandwidth controller Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-07 13:17 ` RFC: I/O bandwidth controller (was Re: Too many I/O controller patches) Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-11 18:18 ` Naveen Gupta
2008-08-11 16:35 ` David Collier-Brown
2008-08-07 7:46 ` Andrea Righi
2008-08-07 13:59 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-11 20:52 ` Andrea Righi
[not found] ` <loom.20080812T071504-212@post.gmane.org>
2008-08-12 11:10 ` RFC: I/O bandwidth controller Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-12 12:55 ` Andrea Righi
2008-08-12 13:07 ` Andrea Righi
2008-08-12 13:54 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-12 15:03 ` James.Smart
2008-08-12 21:00 ` Andrea Righi
2008-08-12 20:44 ` Andrea Righi
2008-08-13 7:47 ` Dong-Jae Kang
2008-08-13 17:56 ` Andrea Righi
2008-08-14 11:18 ` David Collier-Brown [this message]
2008-08-12 13:15 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-13 6:23 ` 강동재
2008-08-08 6:21 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2008-08-08 7:20 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-08 8:10 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2008-08-08 10:05 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2008-08-08 14:31 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
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