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From: David Collier-Brown <davecb@sun.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>, Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	"Press, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Press@ca.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	peterz@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	malware-list@lists.printk.net, hch@infradead.org,
	andi@firstfloor.org, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model?  well sorta.
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:11:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48A893F9.8090000@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080817162603.065c756f@infradead.org>

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com> wrote:
>>/me is HSM clueless and trying to include their needs is proving a
>>challenge.
> 
> 
> I bet it's the same; until you read/mmap... no need to get the data.
> 
> you wouldn't want an "ls -l" or "find" to restore your entire system
> from tape after all :)
> 

The HSMs I'm familiar with keep the inode and the first block of the file on-disk,
so that stat and file commands work. For Windows, you also need to keep the pointer
to the icon to use valid, or create a fake one.

--dave
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-18  1:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-13 16:36 TALPA - a threat model? well sorta Eric Paris
2008-08-13 16:24 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 16:47   ` Eric Paris
2008-08-13 16:37     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 17:00       ` Eric Paris
2008-08-13 19:59         ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 21:24           ` [malware-list] " Press, Jonathan
2008-08-13 21:13             ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 21:35             ` Rik van Riel
2008-08-13 21:23               ` Alan Cox
2008-08-15  3:25                 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-15 20:16               ` Jan Harkes
2008-08-15 22:05                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-17 23:19                   ` Eric Paris
2008-08-17 23:26                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-17 21:11                       ` David Collier-Brown [this message]
2008-08-18 15:33                     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-18 16:43                       ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]                         ` <20080819071416.GA14731@elf.ucw.cz>
2008-08-19 16:10                           ` HSM (was Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta.) Rik van Riel
2008-08-19 19:20                             ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-19 20:33                               ` Rik van Riel
2008-08-20 17:03                                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-13 17:07   ` TALPA - a threat model? well sorta Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-14 13:00   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-13 16:57 ` Greg KH
2008-08-13 17:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-13 18:15   ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-13 18:21     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-14  9:18       ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-13 19:02     ` Eric Paris
2008-08-13 19:29       ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-13 21:15         ` [malware-list] " Press, Jonathan
2008-08-14  9:30         ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-14 12:03           ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-14 12:27             ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-15 14:31               ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-14 13:24           ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-14 13:48             ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14 15:50               ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-14 17:29                 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14 19:17                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-14 19:20                     ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14 19:34                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-14 19:41                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-14 20:20                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-14 21:21                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-14 23:34                             ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-19 21:43                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-15  1:44                         ` david
2008-08-15  2:04                           ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-15  3:41                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-15  5:05                               ` david
2008-08-15  5:12                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-15  5:28                                   ` david
2008-08-15  5:36                                 ` david
2008-08-15  4:48                             ` david
2008-08-15  8:51                             ` Alan Cox
2008-08-15 14:37                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-13 18:57   ` Eric Paris
2008-08-13 21:39     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-14 14:12       ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14 15:57         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-15 10:07         ` Helge Hafting
2008-08-15 10:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-15 13:10             ` [malware-list] " Press, Jonathan
2008-08-15 13:18               ` douglas.leeder
2008-08-15 17:04                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-15 18:09                   ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-18 10:09                     ` Helge Hafting
2008-08-18 10:14                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-18 10:24                         ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-18 10:25                       ` douglas.leeder
2008-08-15 16:25               ` david
2008-08-15 16:30                 ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-15 17:33                   ` david
2008-08-15 17:40                     ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-15 17:47                       ` david
2008-08-15 18:06                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-08-15 20:05                           ` david
2008-08-15 20:17                           ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-15 18:17                         ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-15 20:08                           ` david
2008-08-18 10:02               ` Helge Hafting
2008-08-15 10:44           ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-14  9:46     ` [malware-list] " tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-14 13:46       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-15  1:37       ` david
2008-08-15  1:31   ` david
2008-08-15 16:06   ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-18 12:21     ` david
2008-08-18 13:30       ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-19  0:03         ` david
2008-08-13 18:17 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-13 18:21   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-13 18:24   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-13 18:40   ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14  0:18   ` Mihai Donțu
2008-08-14 11:58     ` [malware-list] " Press, Jonathan
2008-08-14 12:34       ` Mihai Donțu
2008-08-14  0:14 ` 7v5w7go9ub0o
2008-08-14  2:25   ` 7v5w7go9ub0o

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