From: Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
Jay Lan <jlan@sgi.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bernhard Walle <bwalle@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:12:07 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48A93CE7.3020301@ah.jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080811130256.GB28030@redhat.com>
Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 08:03:03PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Are you suggesting that kdump should be put onto panic_notifier_list, in
>>> such a way so that it runs last?
>> The point was that kernel debuggers have an at least as legitimate
>> need as kdump to run early on panic as kdump. In particularly they
>> should run before kdump because kdump can be triggered from
>> the debugger.
>>
>
> Agreed.
>
>> But for modular kernel debuggers the hook would need to be exported,
>> so in theory everyone could use it. In theory code review should
>> catch that. Another alternative would be to readd the old namespaces
>> patches I posted some time ago, this allowed to export symbols only
>> to specific modules (but that would be also unfortunate for out of tree
>> debuggers)
>>
>
> Or an easier way is that debuggers can put a breakpoint on panic().
>
>> Since we have nearly all other needed hooks for kernel debuggers
>> anyways it doesn't really make sense to stop at panic. So this
>> earlier requirements should be relaxed.
>>
>
> I think given that so many people want kdump on panic_notifier_list,
> it would be worthwhile to experiment with the different approach.
>
> - Move kdump to panic_notifier_list.
> - Export panic_notifier_list to user space and provide flexibility
> so that a user can change the priorities of registered handlers
> dynamically.
>
> This will allow an admin to explicitly see who all are goint to run
> in what order in case of panic and also give him capability that he
> can choose to change the order.
>
> This kind of list should keep all the kind of users happy. Those who
> want to run all the other modules before kdump, they will be able to
> do so and those who don't want, they can boost the priority of kdump
> to put it ahead in the list.
>
> I think Takenori had some working patches in the past for this. Probably
> time to revisit the patches. (Somebody willing to look into it?).
>
> Thanks
> Vivek
Hi all,
These are my latest patches. Any comments are welcome.
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/909582
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/909581
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/909584
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/909583
Thanks,
Takenori Nagano
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-18 9:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-03 17:22 [ANNOUNCE] Merkey's Kernel Debugger jmerkey
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2008-08-03 19:36 ` jmerkey
2008-08-03 20:00 ` Rene Herman
2008-08-04 0:14 ` Josh Boyer
2008-08-04 2:19 ` jmerkey
2008-08-04 13:41 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-04 14:33 ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 9:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-05 15:02 ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 15:33 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-05 15:19 ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 15:45 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-05 15:32 ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 16:38 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-05 16:45 ` jmerkey
2008-08-06 19:47 ` Rene Herman
2008-08-05 16:04 ` Chris Friesen
2008-08-05 16:39 ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 20:43 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-08-07 21:02 ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 21:04 ` jmerkey
2008-08-05 17:21 ` Paul Mundt
2008-08-05 17:10 ` jmerkey
2008-08-06 3:08 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-06 5:50 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-07 17:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-07 17:53 ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 18:08 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-07 19:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-08-07 19:47 ` Jay Lan
2008-08-07 19:34 ` jmerkey
2008-08-08 1:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-07 20:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-07 20:07 ` Bernhard Walle
2008-08-07 20:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-07 20:11 ` Bernhard Walle
2008-08-07 22:28 ` Keith Owens
2008-08-08 1:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-08 2:29 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-08 12:08 ` Cliff Wickman
2008-08-08 12:20 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-08 13:19 ` jmerkey
2008-08-08 15:06 ` Cliff Wickman
2008-08-08 13:29 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-08 14:50 ` Cliff Wickman
2008-08-08 16:57 ` Jay Lan
2008-08-11 12:56 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-08 18:03 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 13:02 ` Vivek Goyal
2008-08-11 13:11 ` jmerkey
2008-08-11 13:50 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-11 16:16 ` jmerkey
2008-08-18 9:12 ` Takenori Nagano [this message]
2008-08-08 8:40 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-06 13:11 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-08-06 13:37 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-06 13:54 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-08-06 13:45 ` jmerkey
2008-08-06 14:16 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-06 17:21 ` Jason Wessel
2008-08-06 18:57 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-07 12:45 ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 15:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-07 16:07 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-07 15:52 ` jmerkey
2008-08-07 17:04 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-08 0:28 ` Stefan Richter
2008-08-11 10:36 ` jidong xiao
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