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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Writer-biased low-latency rwlock v8
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:26:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48ADDD6D.6000504@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808211356360.3487@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Because that is already crap.
> 
> Go look at my code once more. Go look at how it has 128 bits of data, 
> exactly so that it DOES NOT HAVE TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF READERS.
> 
> And then go look at it again.
> 
> Look at it five times, and until you can understand that it still uses 
> just a 32-bit word for the fast-path and no unnecessarily crap in it, but 
> it actually has 128 bits of data for all the slow paths, don't bother 
> emailing me any new versions.
> 
> Please. You -still- apparently haven't looked at it, at least not enough 
> to understand the _point_ of it. You still go on about trying to fit in 
> three or four different numbers in that one word. Even though the whole 
> point of my rwlock is that you need exactly _one_ count (active writers), 
> and _one_ bit (active reader) and _one_ extra bit ("contention, go to slow 
> path, look at the other bits ONLY IN THE SLOW PATH!")
> 
> That leaves 30 bits for readers. If you still think you need to "limit the 
> number of readers", then you aren't getting it.
> 

First of all, let me say I don't pretend to understand formally how you 
deal with overflow-after-the-fact, as unlikely as it is.

However, it seems to me to be an easy way to avoid it.  Simply by 
changing the read-test mask to $0x80000003, you will kick the code down 
the slow path once the read counter reaches $0x80000004 (2^29+1 
readers), where you can do any necessary fixup -- or BUG() -- at leisure.

This fastpath ends up being identical in size and performance to the one 
you posted, although yours could be reduced by changing the test to a 
testb instruction -- at the almost certainly unacceptable expense of 
taking a partial-register stall on the CPUs that have those.

	-hpa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-21 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-16  7:39 [PATCH] x86_64 : support atomic ops with 64 bits integer values Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-16 15:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-16 15:43   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-16 17:30     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-16 21:19       ` [RFC PATCH] Fair rwlock Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-16 21:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-17  7:53           ` [RFC PATCH] Fair low-latency rwlock v3 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-17 16:17             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-17 19:10               ` [RFC PATCH] Fair low-latency rwlock v5 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-17 21:30                 ` [RFC PATCH] Fair low-latency rwlock v5 (updated benchmarks) Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-18 18:59                 ` [RFC PATCH] Fair low-latency rwlock v5 Linus Torvalds
2008-08-18 23:25                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-19  6:04                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-19  7:33                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-19  9:06                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-19 16:48                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 20:50                         ` [RFC PATCH] Writer-biased low-latency rwlock v8 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-21 21:00                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 21:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 22:22                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-23  5:09                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-23 18:02                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-23 20:30                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-23 21:40                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 21:26                             ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-08-21 21:41                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-25 19:20                 ` [RFC PATCH] Fair low-latency rwlock v5 Peter Zijlstra

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