From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Writer-biased low-latency rwlock v8
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:26:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48ADDD6D.6000504@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808211356360.3487@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> Because that is already crap.
>
> Go look at my code once more. Go look at how it has 128 bits of data,
> exactly so that it DOES NOT HAVE TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF READERS.
>
> And then go look at it again.
>
> Look at it five times, and until you can understand that it still uses
> just a 32-bit word for the fast-path and no unnecessarily crap in it, but
> it actually has 128 bits of data for all the slow paths, don't bother
> emailing me any new versions.
>
> Please. You -still- apparently haven't looked at it, at least not enough
> to understand the _point_ of it. You still go on about trying to fit in
> three or four different numbers in that one word. Even though the whole
> point of my rwlock is that you need exactly _one_ count (active writers),
> and _one_ bit (active reader) and _one_ extra bit ("contention, go to slow
> path, look at the other bits ONLY IN THE SLOW PATH!")
>
> That leaves 30 bits for readers. If you still think you need to "limit the
> number of readers", then you aren't getting it.
>
First of all, let me say I don't pretend to understand formally how you
deal with overflow-after-the-fact, as unlikely as it is.
However, it seems to me to be an easy way to avoid it. Simply by
changing the read-test mask to $0x80000003, you will kick the code down
the slow path once the read counter reaches $0x80000004 (2^29+1
readers), where you can do any necessary fixup -- or BUG() -- at leisure.
This fastpath ends up being identical in size and performance to the one
you posted, although yours could be reduced by changing the test to a
testb instruction -- at the almost certainly unacceptable expense of
taking a partial-register stall on the CPUs that have those.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-21 21:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-16 7:39 [PATCH] x86_64 : support atomic ops with 64 bits integer values Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-16 15:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-16 15:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-16 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-16 21:19 ` [RFC PATCH] Fair rwlock Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-16 21:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-17 7:53 ` [RFC PATCH] Fair low-latency rwlock v3 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-17 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-17 19:10 ` [RFC PATCH] Fair low-latency rwlock v5 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-17 21:30 ` [RFC PATCH] Fair low-latency rwlock v5 (updated benchmarks) Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-18 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH] Fair low-latency rwlock v5 Linus Torvalds
2008-08-18 23:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-08-19 6:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-19 7:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-19 9:06 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-19 16:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 20:50 ` [RFC PATCH] Writer-biased low-latency rwlock v8 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-21 21:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 21:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-23 5:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-23 18:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-23 20:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-08-23 21:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-21 21:26 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-08-21 21:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-25 19:20 ` [RFC PATCH] Fair low-latency rwlock v5 Peter Zijlstra
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