From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756135AbYHVRVW (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:21:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755677AbYHVRUy (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:20:54 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:37709 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753652AbYHVRUx (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:20:53 -0400 Message-ID: <48AEF3FD.70906@linux-foundation.org> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:14:37 -0500 From: Christoph Lameter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com CC: Pekka Enberg , Ingo Molnar , Jeremy Fitzhardinge , Nick Piggin , Andi Kleen , "Pallipadi, Venkatesh" , Suresh Siddha , Jens Axboe , Rusty Russell , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] smp_call_function: use rwlocks on queues rather than rcu References: <48AE0883.6050701@goop.org> <20080822062800.GQ14110@elte.hu> <84144f020808220006n25d684b1n9db306ddc4f58c4c@mail.gmail.com> <48AEC6B2.1080701@linux-foundation.org> <20080822151156.GA6744@linux.vnet.ibm.com> In-Reply-To: <20080822151156.GA6744@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Paul E. McKenney wrote: >> RCU is problematic because it lets cachelines get cold. A hot cacheline that >> is used frequently read and written to by the same cpu is very good thing for >> performace. > > So on your these large boxes, read-only cachelines are preferentially > ejected from the cache, so that one should write to per-CPU data > occasionally to keep it resident? Or is the issue the long RCU grace > periods which allow the structure being freed to age out of all relevant > caches? (My guess would be the second.) The issue are the RCU grace period that are generally long enough to make the cacheline fall out of all caches.