From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@kernel.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] OSS Proxy using CUSE
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:38:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48B736E7.5000407@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080828231426.GA15284@kroah.com>
Greg KH wrote:
>
> Hm, why? It's a "fake" serial port as it is just a pass-through to the
> USB device. No flow control or line settings work on the device, so the
> kernel driver just silently eats them. But there is old, closed source
> software that wants to talk to a serial port, so the kernel driver
> remains. With this code, we could then use the more modern libusb code
> instead.
>
> I guess you could hook it up through a pty, and somehow create
> /dev/pilot/ for it as well, that is an idea to consider.
>
Why? Because there is a lot of complexity in the tty layer, and there
is no point in replicating the entire tty layer with all its ioctls
through a fragile user-space emulator. For cases like this, a pty is
easier (your daemon opens /dev/ptmx, and then symlinks the appropriate
pty to /dev/pilot) and works better.
>> The big problem with using ptys for serial port emulation is that they
>> currently don't handle BREAK at all.
>
> For this type of USB device, that's not an issue :)
Indeed. It would be nice to fix, because it would make implementing
serial ports as ptys+userspace a much more capable replacement. It's
not trivial, though, because the interpretation of the BREAK has to be
done when received, not when sent, which means supporting a 257th value
in the underlying buffer setup.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-28 23:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-28 19:05 [ANNOUNCE] OSS Proxy using CUSE Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 20:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-28 22:18 ` Greg KH
2008-08-28 23:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28 23:14 ` Greg KH
2008-08-28 23:38 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-08-28 23:32 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-29 1:33 ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-29 6:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-29 7:26 ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-29 8:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-08-29 8:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-29 8:28 ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-02 15:25 ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-27 20:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-11-28 2:23 ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-28 11:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-11-28 12:02 ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-28 12:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-08-29 10:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2008-08-29 10:47 ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-14 2:46 ` [ANNOUNCE] OSS Proxy 1.2 " Tejun Heo
2009-04-22 19:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-04-22 23:59 ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-20 6:13 ` Tejun Heo
2009-06-20 6:37 ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-28 16:01 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-04-28 16:42 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-28 17:17 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-04-28 19:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-28 20:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-04-28 21:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-04-29 7:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-04-28 23:35 ` Tejun Heo
2009-04-29 7:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-04-29 7:46 ` Tejun Heo
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