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From: Joe Peterson <joe@skyrush.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] TTY: Fix loss of echoed characters (2nd follow-on PATCH attached)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 07:15:12 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48C676E0.1080600@skyrush.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080909141210.4fd546a1@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

Alan Cox wrote:
> If you have the column handling isolated and locked that is a big step
> towards exterminating the BKL in the n_tty code. It also illustrates why
> locking people always say "lock data not code".

Well, it's isolated, but still locked with the BKL, which would be great
to get rid of.  A few questions for you, since you've worked with this
code (and kernel locking stuff) a lot longer than I:

1) Now that column state is confined to the process_out/echo funcs in
n_tty, would using tty_write_lock() (the defined atomic write lock
mutex) be a good replacement for lock_kernel(), even though interruptible?

2) To protect echo buffer operations, I would lean toward using a
separate echo lock mutex so it does not lock against non-echo-buffer
output.  Would nesting this with #1 be advisable?  Should it be
interruptable?

3) tty_write() mentions refers to ldisc use of the BKL.  If we change
this, are there any considerations for the tty_io or driver code?

					Thanks, Joe

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-09 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200807252257.m6PMvieO003213@imap1.linux-foundation.org>
2008-08-20 15:36 ` [PATCH] TTY: Fix loss of echoed characters Joe Peterson
2008-08-26 12:41   ` Joe Peterson
2008-09-08 16:11     ` [PATCH] TTY: Fix loss of echoed characters (2nd follow-on PATCH attached) Joe Peterson
2008-09-09  0:32       ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-09 10:55         ` Alan Cox
2008-09-09 17:43           ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-09 20:42             ` Joe Peterson
2008-09-10 23:39               ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-11 12:53                 ` Joe Peterson
2008-09-09 13:00         ` Joe Peterson
2008-09-09 13:12           ` Alan Cox
2008-09-09 13:15             ` Joe Peterson [this message]
2008-09-09 13:19               ` Alan Cox

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