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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 1 of 7] x86: add _PAGE_IOMAP pte flag for IO mappings
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:27:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48C8038B.40107@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200809110255.03580.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>

Nick Piggin wrote:
> It complements vm_normal_page, which was there first (and coined by
> Linus). It is the opposite of normal. This question always comes up
> and my answer is always yes, if you can convince Linus to rename
> vm_normal_page to the corresponding term :)
>   

Not really.  Normal is normal, but "special" doesn't tell us what kind
of special it is.

> It's not exactly _PAGE_NOSTRUCTPAGE. There can be struct pages under
> there, but you're not to touch them.
>   

To the extent that the struct page may as well not exist?  Does it
contain any meaningful state?  Are they always IO mappings?  Could we
just use _PAGE_IOMAP as the name for _PAGE_SPECIAL?

>>>   And not having a struct page should correspond well to a pte not
>>> requiring pfn->mfn conversion and being an I/O page.
>>>       
>> But _PAGE_SPECIAL is only set in a few places.  It's not set in ioremap
>> mappings and so on.  Should it be?
>>     
>
> Kernel address space, you mean? No, it is only ever used on user
> addresses.
>   

Right.  But if we fold _PAGE_SPECIAL and _PAGE_IOMAP together, it would
start getting used on kernel addresses (and obviously we'd need to
rearrange _PAGE_CPA_TEST).

>> There's also the hiccup that it gets set in a pte with pte_mkspecial() -
>> but at that point its too late because you've already constructed the
>> pte and done the pfn->mfn conversion.  _PAGE_IOMAP can only be set when
>> you initially construct the pte out of a frame number and a pgprot.
>>     
>
> I don't see this would be any problem because the pte is always constructed
> in a single line in both places where it is used.
>   

OK.  If we were to fold these two together, then pte_mkspecial() would
have to go, since it wouldn't possible to use correctly in my use case.

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-10 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-07 22:21 [PATCH 0 of 7] x86: lay groundwork for Xen domain 0 support Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-07 22:21 ` [PATCH 1 of 7] x86: add _PAGE_IOMAP pte flag for IO mappings Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-09 13:32   ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-09 14:47     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-09 14:56       ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-09 15:29         ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2008-09-09 15:48           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-09 16:05             ` Keir Fraser
2008-09-10  9:55         ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 16:38           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-10 16:55             ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-10 17:27               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2008-09-07 22:21 ` [PATCH 2 of 7] x86: remove duplicate early_ioremap declarations Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-07 22:21 ` [PATCH 3 of 7] x86: add early_memremap() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-07 22:21 ` [PATCH 4 of 7] x86: use early_memremap() in setup.c Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-07 22:21 ` [PATCH 5 of 7] x86-64: don't check for map replacement Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-07 22:21 ` [PATCH 6 of 7] x86: use early_ioremap in __acpi_map_table Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-07 23:44   ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-08  0:03     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-08 14:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-08 16:29         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-08 19:41         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-10 11:55         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-10 16:49           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-11  7:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-11 18:36               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-11 18:56                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-11 20:34             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-11 21:07               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-12  9:49                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-12 17:31                   ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]             ` <20080911125748.GA14698@elte.hu>
2008-09-11 21:33               ` [PATCH] acpi: remove final __acpi_map_table mapping before setting acpi_gbl_permanent_mmap Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-07 22:21 ` [PATCH 7 of 7] x86: always explicitly map acpi memory Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-07 23:35   ` [Xen-devel] " Yinghai Lu
2008-09-08  0:02     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-08  0:14       ` Yinghai Lu

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