From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com>
Cc: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
Alain Knaff <alain@knaff.lu>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] init: bzip2 or lzma -compressed kernels and initrds
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:13:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48CE97BA.1060901@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac9c93b10809150546w7644316bk53122b0ce5021ff4@mail.gmail.com>
Frans Meulenbroeks wrote:
> 2008/9/15 Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>:
>> On Sunday 07 September 2008 00:48:31 Willy Tarreau wrote:
>>> Hi Alain,
>>>> +config KERNEL_LZMA
>>>> + bool "LZMA"
>>>> + help
>>>> + The most recent compression algorithm.
>>>> + Its ratio is best, decompression speed is between the other
>>>> + 2. Compression is slowest.
>>>> + The kernel size is about 33 per cent smaller with lzma,
>>>> + in comparison to gzip.
>>> isn't memory usage in the same range as bzip2 ?
>> Last I checked it was more. (I very vaguely recall somebody saying 16 megs
>> working space back when this was first submitted to busybox, but that was a
>> few years ago...)
>>
>> A quick Google found a page that benchmarks them. Apparently it depends
>> heavily on which compression option you use:
>>
>> http://tukaani.org/lzma/benchmarks
>>
>
> [...]
>
> Apologies if I'm sidetracking the discussion, but I'd like to coin a remark.
>
> For kernel/ramfsimage etc the best choice is the one that has the
> fastest decompression (info on tukaani.org says gzip).
> Rationale: as it uncompresses faster the system will boot faster.
>
> Of course this only holds if the background memory can hold that
> image. For disk based systems, I assume this is not a problem at all,
> but for embedded systems with all software in flash a higher
> compression ration (e.g. lzma) can just make the difference between
> fit and not fit (so in those cases lzma could just make your day).
>
Given the larger memory needed to decompress, it becomes a very interesting
calculation in really small memory machines.
--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-15 17:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-06 21:19 [PATCH] init: bzip2 or lzma -compressed kernels and initrds Alain Knaff
2008-09-06 22:29 ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-09-06 22:59 ` Alain Knaff
2008-09-07 6:17 ` Rob Landley
2008-09-08 8:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-08 13:14 ` Jörn Engel
2008-09-07 3:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-07 4:35 ` Steven Noonan
2008-09-07 4:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-07 7:40 ` Alain Knaff
2008-09-07 16:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-07 7:39 ` Alain Knaff
2008-09-07 8:03 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-09-07 9:17 ` Alain Knaff
2008-09-07 5:48 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-09-07 8:59 ` Alain Knaff
2008-09-15 1:37 ` Rob Landley
2008-09-15 12:46 ` Frans Meulenbroeks
2008-09-15 17:13 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2008-09-15 17:28 ` Steven Noonan
2008-09-26 18:53 ` Leon Woestenberg
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