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From: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Simon Arlott <simon@fire.lp0.eu>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 5/3] fastboot: sync the async execution before	late_initcall and move level 6s (sync) first
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:19:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D0310E.1040409@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080731215601.GC4817@kroah.com>

Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 07:29:21PM +0100, Simon Arlott wrote:
>>>> There is nothing else to run between 1-2 and 3, so there is no 
>>>> opportunity
>>>> to initialise devices in the background and usblp_init blocks for a 
>>>> while.
>>> If it were a module then it would block in a separate thread and wouldn't 
>>> hold up the main init process.
>> Right, but I want to compile all of this into the kernel.
> 
> Why?  It sounds like a trivial solution for you is to actually use
> modules.  Why go through a lot of extra work to solve something in a
> different way that is already solved for you?
> 
> Who is imposing the "no modules allowed" rule on you, and why was it
> made?

Sorry for the massively late response.

Don't know how I missed this thread earlier, but I can answer that
from my standpoint.

At Sony we have a "no modules if possible" policy to reduce kernel
footprint.  The size difference for a kernel compiled with modules
vs one with external modules is about 10% IRRC.
 -- Tim

=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Corporation of America
=============================


      parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-16 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-20 15:59 [patch 4/3] fastboot: hold the BKL over the async init call sequence Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-20 16:00 ` [patch 5/3] fastboot: sync the async execution before late_initcall and move level 6s (sync) first Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-20 16:40   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-20 21:14   ` Daniel Walker
2008-07-20 21:23     ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-20 21:50     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-29 21:00   ` Rene Herman
2008-07-29 21:04     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-29 21:12       ` Rene Herman
2008-07-29 21:21         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-29 22:30           ` Rene Herman
2008-07-29 22:34             ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-30 14:08               ` Alan Stern
2008-07-30 18:25                 ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-30 19:41                   ` Alan Stern
2008-07-31 11:49                     ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-31 15:34                       ` Alan Stern
2008-07-31 18:29                         ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-31 18:56                           ` Rene Herman
2008-07-31 19:27                             ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-31 19:16                           ` Alan Stern
2008-08-06 18:40                             ` [PATCH RFC] USB: Add HCD fastboot Simon Arlott
2008-08-06 19:11                               ` Alan Stern
2008-08-06 19:20                                 ` Simon Arlott
2008-08-06 19:29                                   ` Greg KH
2008-08-06 19:49                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-08-06 19:56                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-06 20:09                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-08-06 20:17                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-06 20:27                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-08-06 20:07                                     ` Simon Arlott
2008-08-06 20:26                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-08-06 21:49                                         ` Simon Arlott
2008-08-06 22:34                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-08-06 22:53                                             ` Simon Arlott
2008-08-07 14:14                                               ` Alan Stern
2008-08-07  3:29                                             ` David Brownell
2008-08-07  9:28                                           ` Emanoil Kotsev
2008-08-07 16:47                                             ` Alan Stern
2008-08-07  3:34                               ` David Brownell
2008-08-08  9:24                               ` Rene Herman
2008-08-08 11:29                                 ` Simon Arlott
2008-08-08 14:30                                   ` Rene Herman
2008-07-31 21:56                           ` [patch 5/3] fastboot: sync the async execution before late_initcall and move level 6s (sync) first Greg KH
2008-07-31 22:12                             ` Simon Arlott
2008-07-31 22:37                               ` Simon Arlott
2008-09-16 22:19                             ` Tim Bird [this message]

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