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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Yan Li <elliot.li.tech@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, joerg.roedel@amd.com,
	rjmaomao@gmail.com, Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	nancydreaming@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] VMware detection support for x86 and x86-64
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:38:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D12490.5010003@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080917141030.GC20510@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> that still leaves the CPUID/MSR method for the virtualizer to announce 
> itself.
> 

FWIW, it's getting pretty clear with the recent bout of Virtual PC bugs 
that we need virtualizer detection, and that a lot of VMs are doing 
various idiotic things.

Again, with Virtual PC, it seems that DMI is the preferred detection 
method, as disgusting as it is, simply because the alternatives are the 
moral equivalent of ad hoc probing for ISA cards (a random I/O port for 
VMWare, a random "hopefully unused" opcode for VPC.)

>> I feel It's also unfit to touch the whole PCI or DMI thing before CPU 
>> registers and memory are settled.  A simple solution here is to only 
>> issue a KERN_INFO when we detected mtrr is empty and later, when we 
>> can be sure that the OS is not running as a VM, issue a warning. The 
>> later part can be done in early_quirks().
> 
> ok, we can move the MTRR message further back, to after the early quirks 
> phase.

Makes sense to me.

	-hpa


  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-17 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-21 11:32 [PATCH] X86: remove WARN_ON if MTRRs are all blank Joerg Roedel
2008-02-21 11:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-21 12:47   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-02-21 13:03     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-02-21 13:27       ` Joerg Roedel
2008-09-07 23:45   ` [PATCH 1/2] VMware detection support for x86 and x86-64 Yan Li
2008-09-08  0:36     ` David Dillow
2008-09-08  1:49       ` Yan Li
2008-09-08 14:04     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-09  0:20       ` Yan Li
2008-09-09  0:34         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-09 12:28           ` Yan Li
2008-09-09 20:12             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-16 13:32           ` Yan Li
2008-09-17 10:52             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-17 14:03               ` Yan Li
2008-09-17 14:10                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-17 15:38                   ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-09-24 12:22                     ` [PATCH 1/2] VMware guest detection " Yan Li
2008-09-24 14:10                       ` Cristi Magherusan
2008-09-24 14:23                         ` Yan Li
2008-09-24 16:19                           ` Alok kataria
2008-09-24 16:21                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-25  0:19                               ` Yan Li
2008-09-25  0:15                             ` Yan Li
2008-09-25  0:26                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-25  2:34                                 ` Yan Li
2008-09-24 18:13                           ` Cristi Magherusan
2008-09-24 18:16                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-25  0:23                             ` Yan Li
2008-09-25  1:28                               ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-09-24 16:19                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-25  0:32                         ` Yan Li
2008-09-25  0:37                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-25  2:48                             ` Yan Li
2008-09-25  9:56                           ` David Sanders
2008-09-25 10:23                             ` Yan Li
2008-09-25  2:23                       ` Greg KH
2008-09-25  2:47                         ` Yan Li
2008-09-25  2:55                           ` Greg KH
2008-09-25  3:29                             ` Yan Li
2008-09-25  4:54                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-25 12:56                               ` Greg KH
2008-09-25 14:38                               ` Yan Li
2008-09-25  2:28       ` [PATCH 1/2] VMware detection support " Alok kataria
2008-09-25  4:38         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-25  4:46           ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-25  4:54             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-25  5:02               ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-25  5:04                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-25  5:23                   ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-25  5:30                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-25  8:45                     ` Alan Cox
2008-09-25 20:48                     ` Zachary Amsden
2008-09-25 21:59                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-25 22:20                         ` Zachary Amsden
2008-09-25 22:27                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-26 12:27                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-26 12:47                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-26 13:22                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-26 17:37                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-03 14:12                                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-09-26 20:35                                 ` Zachary Amsden
2008-09-25 22:17                       ` David Sanders
2008-09-07 23:47   ` [PATCH 2/2] avoid mtrr warning message when running as VMware guest Yan Li

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