From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
To: Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
darren@dvhart.com, "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
systemtap-ml <systemtap@sources.redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Unified tracing buffer
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:05:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48D832B6.3010409@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33307c790809221616h5e7410f5gc37c262d83722111@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Martin,
Martin Bligh wrote:
>>> One thing that I think is still important is to have a unified timestamp
>>> mechanism on everything, so we can co-ordinate different things back
>>> together in userspace from different trace tools, so I intend to keep
>>> that at a lower level, but I think you're right that the event id, etc can
>>> move up into separate layers.
>> I'm not so sure that the unified 'timestamp' must be required by all tracers.
>> If you just need to merge and sort per-cpu data, you can use an atomic
>> sequential number for it.
>> IMHO, the unified 'timestamp' would better be an option, because some
>> architectures can't support it. I think preparing timestamp-callback
>> function will help us.
>
> An atomic sequential number is:
>
> (a) far less meaningful than a timestamp for the user
> (b) more expensive to compute in many cases.
Sure, atomic counter might be more expensive but accurate for ordering.
(and it can use on almost all architectures)
The cost depends on the architecture and system configuration.
So, I think it is preferable user to choose their timestamp rather
than fix it. For example, calling callback when writing a log entry
as following;
write_log(struct buffer *buffer, char *data, int len)
{
/* reserve a logging space */
char *buf = reserve(buffer, len + buffer->timestamp.len);
/* write a timestamp */
buf = buffer->timestamp.write(buf);
/* write a body */
memcpy(buf, data, len);
}
And unified buffer prepares default timestamp.write callbacks.
char * timestamp_write(char * buf); // write arch-specific timestamp
char * seqnum_write(char * buf); // write an sequence number
What would you think about it?
> I think we came up with a way to approximate this, using a callback every
> ms or so as the higher order bits, and a sequential counter in the lower
> order for those broken platforms.
Sure, that will work.
> But perhaps it would be better if we started with a discussion of which
> platforms can't do global timestamps, and why not? I know some of them
> are fixable, but perhaps not all.
For example, my laptop (this machine/Core2Duo) doesn't return correct TSC. :-(
Thank you,
--
Masami Hiramatsu
Software Engineer
Hitachi Computer Products (America) Inc.
Software Solutions Division
e-mail: mhiramat@redhat.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-23 0:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-19 21:33 Unified tracing buffer Martin Bligh
2008-09-19 21:42 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-09-19 21:57 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-19 22:41 ` Olaf Dabrunz
2008-09-19 22:19 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-20 8:10 ` Olaf Dabrunz
2008-09-20 8:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-20 11:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-20 8:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-20 11:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-19 22:28 ` Olaf Dabrunz
2008-09-19 22:09 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-19 23:18 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-09-20 8:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-20 13:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-20 13:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-20 14:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-22 18:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-22 21:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-23 3:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-20 0:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-22 14:07 ` K.Prasad
2008-09-22 14:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-22 16:29 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-22 16:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-22 20:50 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-23 3:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-23 2:49 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-23 5:25 ` Tom Zanussi
2008-09-23 9:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-23 18:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-23 18:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-09-23 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-23 13:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-23 14:00 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-23 17:55 ` K.Prasad
2008-09-23 18:27 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-24 3:50 ` Tom Zanussi
2008-09-24 5:42 ` K.Prasad
2008-09-25 6:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] current relay cleanup patchset Tom Zanussi
2008-09-25 6:07 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] relay - Clean up relay_switch_subbuf() and make waking up consumers optional Tom Zanussi
2008-09-25 6:07 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] relay - Make the relay sub-buffer switch code replaceable Tom Zanussi
2008-09-25 6:07 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] relay - Add channel flags to relay, remove global callback param Tom Zanussi
2008-09-25 6:07 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] relay - Add reserved param to switch-subbuf, in preparation for non-pad write/reserve Tom Zanussi
2008-09-25 6:07 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] relay - Map the first sub-buffer at the end of the buffer, for temporary convenience Tom Zanussi
2008-09-25 6:07 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] relay - Replace relay_reserve/relay_write with non-padded versions Tom Zanussi
2008-09-25 6:07 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] relay - Remove padding-related code from relay_read()/relay_splice_read() et al Tom Zanussi
2008-09-25 6:08 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] relay - Clean up remaining padding-related junk Tom Zanussi
2008-09-23 5:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] relay - clean up subbuf switch Tom Zanussi
2008-09-23 20:15 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-23 5:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] relay - make subbuf switch replaceable Tom Zanussi
2008-09-23 20:17 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-23 5:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] relay - add channel flags Tom Zanussi
2008-09-23 20:20 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-24 3:57 ` Tom Zanussi
2008-09-20 0:26 ` Unified tracing buffer Marcel Holtmann
2008-09-20 9:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-20 13:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-20 14:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-22 18:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-02 15:28 ` Jason Baron
2008-10-03 16:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-03 18:37 ` Jason Baron
2008-10-03 19:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-03 19:25 ` Jason Baron
2008-10-03 19:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-10-03 20:25 ` Jason Baron
2008-10-03 21:52 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-09-22 3:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-09-22 9:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-23 2:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-22 13:57 ` K.Prasad
2008-09-22 19:45 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-22 20:13 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-22 22:25 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-22 23:11 ` Darren Hart
2008-09-23 0:04 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-22 23:16 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-23 0:05 ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2008-09-23 0:12 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-23 14:49 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-23 15:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-23 15:30 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-23 16:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-23 17:04 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-23 17:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-23 18:59 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-23 19:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-23 19:38 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-23 19:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-23 19:50 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-23 20:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-23 21:02 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-23 20:03 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-23 20:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-23 15:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-23 0:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-23 1:26 ` Roland Dreier
2008-09-23 1:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-23 2:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-23 2:26 ` Darren Hart
2008-09-23 2:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-23 3:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-23 3:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-23 4:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-23 3:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-23 4:10 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-23 4:17 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-23 15:23 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-23 10:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-09-23 4:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-23 14:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-23 2:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-09-23 3:06 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-23 14:36 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-09-23 15:02 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-09-23 15:21 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-09-23 17:59 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-09-23 18:28 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-23 3:33 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-23 3:47 ` Martin Bligh
2008-09-23 5:04 ` Andi Kleen
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